Coated Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) brilliant clip of Kaufmann's reaction when his soprano doesn't show up on stage during Tosca 'non abbiamo il soprano' http://video.repubblica.it/spettacoli-e-cultura/tosca-colpo-di-scena-a-vienna-il-soprano-non-c-e/236149/235875?ref=HRESS-4&refresh_ce Edited to add: Apparently Gheorghiu decided to wait out his applause and encore in her dressing room http://slippedisc.com/2016/04/angela-gheorghius-late-show-the-truth-at-last/ Edited April 18, 2016 by Coated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueline Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Love that Kaufmann smile! The Tosca I saw at the ROH, if she hadn't turned up earlier in the show, he would have had a lucky escape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sadly the video doesn't work for me. I think it is posted on the Kaufman fan page on Facebook so I will look there later. What a pro he is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sim: I can get it so it's not on Facebook - it looks like an Italian news site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 This should work Sim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqbE87iYqE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 It did....many thanks Janet. Gosh, what a gaffe!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billboyd Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 But, all that clapping - and an encore - during a very dramatic piece of theatre.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annamicro Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 But, all that clapping - and an encore - during a very dramatic piece of theatre.... especially when SHE is not on stage...OFFENCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mallinson Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 So he repeated E lucevan le stelle? Is that common practice on the operatic stage? What about in ballet? The only time I can think of is at the first performance of Ashton's gala piece Meditation from Thaïs when to Sibley and Dowell's horror Ashton asked the audience if they'd like to see it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annamicro Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 So he repeated E lucevan le stelle? Is that common practice on the operatic stage? What about in ballet? The only time I can think of is at the first performance of Ashton's gala piece Meditation from Thaïs when to Sibley and Dowell's horror Ashton asked the audience if they'd like to see it again. in my very small Opera experience, I saw Nabucco chorus "Va pensiero" repeated. In Ballet, Osipova did twice her fouettes series when guesting at the Mariinsky in DQ. From comments by opera fans it seems that the "bis" (or encore) is not so uncommon: and if we have a word for it, that should mean it does exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Arrowsmith Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 As Scarpia says in the previous act, 'Tosca, finalmente mia!' Lucky this Cavaradossi did not get knifed too for keeping his lady waiting!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthE Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 So he repeated E lucevan le stelle? Is that common practice on the operatic stage? What about in ballet? The only time I can think of is at the first performance of Ashton's gala piece Meditation from Thaïs when to Sibley and Dowell's horror Ashton asked the audience if they'd like to see it again. It is very rare in opera to pause the piece for an encore; it's supposed to be continuous drama after all. Tenor Javier Camarena has had it happen twice recently at the Met - once in La Cenerentola and once in Don Pasquale - and in doing so, became only the third singer in the history of the Met ever to give an encore during an opera, and the first ever to do so on two separate occasions. The previous two had been Luciano Pavarotti and Juan Diego Florez. There's obviously something about high tenors giving amazing displays of technical virtuosity that wakes up the Met audience... It was so unusual that it even made the news in the Daily Mail. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthE Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I should have said in my earlier post: I think it has a lot more historic precedent in Italy, though not recently. And I have no idea whether it happens regularly in Vienna - I would have thought not. In twenty years of primarily UK-based operagoing, I've never known it happen. (Operetta has different traditions, and encores are often pre-planned into the performance for comic purposes. For example, in HMS Pinafore there is a well-established tradition of spinning "Never mind the why and wherefore" out to several iterations as a visual joke gets developed further and further.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 And from the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/19/arts/music/tosca-angela-gheorghiu-missed-entrance.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billboyd Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The drama had been killed stone dead by the clapping and the encore. Tosca's late entrance did not matter much at all. Maybe, she was making a point......a valid one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annamicro Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The drama had been killed stone dead by the clapping and the encore. Tosca's late entrance did not matter much at all. Maybe, she was making a point......a valid one... She made so many "points" in her career she should wear polka dots clothing only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I have just watched the video again. What a true pro Kaufmann is. No diva behaviour from him!! Wonderful how he can go in and out of character in a matter of seconds. This reminds me of a story my mother told me once. She and my father had seen Callas and Di Stefano (I think it was him; one of the great Italian tenors, anyway) at The Met, and my mother said that at the end of a duet Di Stefano dared to hold the final note for a couple of seconds longer than Callas did, so his was the last voice the audience heard. She was so incensed that she refused to come out again, and finally did after lots of begging and cajoling backstage. I don't know, these divas.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coated Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 I should have said in my earlier post: I think it has a lot more historic precedent in Italy, though not recently. And I have no idea whether it happens regularly in Vienna - I would have thought not. It's not common in Vienna, but once they decide they really love something they'll demand an encore. Seems they have a soft spot for 'E Lucevan le Stelle' and both Pavarotti and Domingo have done encores of it for a ferociously enthusiastic Viennese audience 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A frog Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 The drama had been killed stone dead by the clapping and the encore. Tosca's late entrance did not matter much at all. Maybe, she was making a point......a valid one... I doubt that's it. Angela Gheorghiu has many qualities and I'm always happy when she deigns to show up for a performance, but knowing to make her performance part of a dramatic whole isn't one of them, I can't think of anyone I've seen do more to milk applause after an aria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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