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  1. 12 hours ago, Bruce Wall said:

    Social distancing???  .... (in the sense of concern for your neighbour???) .... Perhaps I have just misunderstood ... 


    Good question. If this is being performed in a location that encourages people to crowd together to watch it, with no advice or requirement for social distancing, it shouldn't be being performed. (If social distancing could just be ignored whenever people felt like it, all our theatres could come back right now!!).

  2. In case of interest: Harmony Lane, a 1954 musical comedy short (27 mins) is being shown on Talking Pictures (Freeview 81) on Sunday 19th July at 8.30pm; apparently it features "Swan Lake" by Svetlana Beriosova and David Paltenghi of the Sadler's Wells Ballet (as well as the Beverley Sisters, Dora Bryan and Max Bygraves and others).

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  3. 8 hours ago, oncnp said:


    and the Return to Covent Garden should be on the BBC for a month (at least)


    Yes - I realise it could be watched later (as could R&J) - but that implies a certain amount of planning/a more serious interest, whereas my hope would be that airing something on TV would attract casual passers-by, so to speak. Anyway I hope a lot of people will watch/watched both the programme and the ballet.

  4. I've loved watching the old matches/players especially Chris Evert and Evonne Goolagong. The one I'd really like to see is Ilie Nastase but I haven't seen anything of him - maybe he never made it far enough in tournament (can't remember now) to qualify for these programmes (or maybe I missed him - I haven't watched them all). Anyway I think Wimbledon and the BBC have done a great job in the absence of live tennis. And I find that although the game is so much faster and more powerful now, the old matches can still be just as thrilling and really absorbing. And I remember the players and their mannerisms so well even after all these years!  

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  5. 6 hours ago, alison said:

    Just a reminder for what we hope will be all the ballet bits from all 3 of the Royal Opera House's recent broadcasts being on BBC4 tonight between 7 and 8.30 pm.


    Bit unfortunate that this is on at the same time as the R&J stream, really. Presumably the ROH had no say in the scheduling of this programme.

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  6. As no doubt others will be aware, the Public Campaign for the Arts have sent round an email headed 'The start of something good'. Given what the widespread response would no doubt have been to anything falling even slightly short of hope/expectation, this package is clearly regarded as very and surprisingly generous. So although there are clearly still difficulties ahead (and behind), I'm both relieved and impressed. I hope that the funds will be made available asap.

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  7. 12 minutes ago, capybara said:

    A ‘road map’ and a ‘timetable’ don’t have any validity without the detail of financial support - to state the obvious!

    Meanwhile, the NHS is understandably pressing for more resources to prepare against a return of the pandemic.........

    And sporting events can resume........

    Theatre, and perhaps ballet in particular, simply don’t play as well with the general public, so.......


    Yes - lots of competing priorities. I just hope that the financial package for the arts is as generous as possible.

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  8. 59 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said:

    Well, that's why I said, "If guidelines were to evolve to limit numbers rather than or as well as specify distances"...


    Sorry, Lizbie1 - I didn't register the 'limit numbers' bit! But I fear that some sort of distancing will be part of the equation for quite a well yet.


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  9. On 27/06/2020 at 01:31, alison said:

    I was wondering how the other tennis fans on here were doing? I thought I was managing ok without tennis until the grass court season started and the withdrawal symptoms hit.


    I was looking forward to the classic Wimbledon matches the BBC had promised, but for some strange reason they all seem to be 3 hours long, so I have to conclude that they've been edited down 😞


    I've really enjoyed the ones I've seen so far - they're edited to varying degrees but not a lot and you can really re-live them. 

  10. 41 minutes ago, Sunrise said:


    I haven't rehashed any arguments. My point is just that attitudes have changed because of BLM and I thought that as result there may be more reluctance to stage Bayadere by some companies again, but I may well be wrong.


    You were implying the validity of the arguments against staging it in its current form. But it may well be the case that companies will not want to risk being attacked and so will not programme it at the moment.

  11. 9 hours ago, Sunrise said:

    I was just thinking about Bayadere in fact - the last time I commented on its appropriateness, the thread was shut down. But I think that because of BLM, there has been a shift in attitude in some of the arts and raises again the issue of cultural appropriation. One outcome is that the use of white actors to voice minority ethnic roles is stopping. So I think it's worth revisiting and asking the difficult question about whether it can really be performed again in the UK in its current form. Especially as it's not just a statue or painting or book, but a living breathing piece of art. I guess for me, I would be happy to preserve the third act and some excerpts, but I wouldn't see it again as a whole.


    Also, one point I didn't make last time was we don't know how dancers (from any company) might feel about dancing it, the sacred fire dance for instance. Do they have a choice to refuse to dance it? If they don't, how comfortable are we as an audience to pay for a ticket?


    I see absolutely no point in re-rehearsing the previous discussion about La Bayadère, which was only closed down after all the arguments had been fully aired.  

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  12. What a fantastic evening! Of course I'd like more ballet, but I understand why that may not be possible at this stage. Both pas de deux were lovely, but I especially loved the beautiful Concerto pdd with Kaneko and Clarke. All four dancers were terrific. But the music and singing were such a treat too - varied and really enjoyable pieces, and great to hear from the young singers. Rounded off with  the rousing Traviata drinking song - superb!


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  13. 8 hours ago, Pulcinella said:

    I really don't think this is going to be much help at all, especially as there seems to be no sign of any financial help.




    Well at least it shows a commitment to getting to step 5. And steps 1 and 2 have already started. So it gives me a bit of hope.


    No doubt the financial package will be announced as soon as it's been agreed. Let's hope that is very soon, and that it's as generous as possible in the circumstances.

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  14. 1 hour ago, Balletfanp said:

    Also describing that beautiful performance as “a three minute warmup” - for the all-important singing, I presume.....


    Not to take anything away from the lovely Mahler performance, but a dismissive review like that (I hesitate even to give it the title of “review” as it reviewed precisely nothing!) is a bit of an insult to ballet fans and Muntagirov.


    I assume Mr Morrison is more of an opera fan.


    A lot of an insult, in fact!

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  15. 31 minutes ago, standingticket said:

    Can I ask whether the clip that the ROH has released is essentially the whole solo? I was going to pay to watch (was busy on Saturday) in retrospect, but mostly for the ballet, so if there isn't any more I will make do with re-watching the clip again and again. So sublime.


    As far as I can see it's the whole thing, bar a few steps at the beginning when he enters.

  16. 4 hours ago, Scheherezade said:


    She was reading from a card, she kept looking at it throughout her broadcast, which sounded entirely staged, totally lacking in any real passion or enthusiasm for what was being performed and completely devoid of any empathy for the intended audience. Not a good showing.


    I wondered if she'd been asked to tone down the OTT enthusiasm of last week... Actually I feel a bit sorry for her - she's obviously not a specialist in either ballet or opera, and she's doing her best with what she's been asked to do.

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  17. I'm so sorry for everyone who had technical problems. I hope they'll be resolved as quickly as possible.


    I thought that Muntagirov/Ashton/Gluck was sublimely beautiful in every respect. It would have been wonderful at any time, but in the context of recent months it took on a symbolic significance in its anguish, fear, tranquility and hope. And all danced by a single man, barely clothed; so not just a man, but also mankind.  Brilliant, and so beautifully performed.


    I found the voices in the Mahler were a bit muffled/distant; I don't know if that was just my laptop (it was fine with the singing last week, but then I suppose there was no orchestra then) or if there was a slight imbalance in the microphones. Anyway, that combined with the interruption of a phone call from my brother (not something that could happen with a real live performance!) and then the realisation that I wasn't in the mood for more melancholy meant that I abandoned it. But I'm glad others enjoyed it.


    I would have appreciated a bit more information about both pieces in the intros, especially the Ashton/Gluck. When it was composed, when the dance was created, the context of the solo etc. Not too much, but a bit more than was offered (which was almost nothing). The Mahler was given a bit more but still very brief. If they're really wanting to reach out to newcomers, I think they need to give more context.

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  18. 25 minutes ago, Mary said:

    I had my own criticisms of the first free event, but in justice I can see that it is indeed a very different thing to try to programme a live but audience-less and distancing event,  (with dancers who have not been able to go to class)  -  that people are willing to pay for - in the ROH, - than to make a short film for instagram- just 2 very different things.


    However, I still want to see more ballet- and Vadim Muntagirov dancing Ashton will be the best start there could possibly be.


    Yes, they are 2 very different things. But both require an initial choice as to what kind of material to put before the public, and I think the ROH made a big misjudgment on Saturday evening as to the tone of their offering/s. 


    Also, there may well be good reasons for the fact that there was so little ballet,  but if so that should have been explained so that the impression is not given that ballet is the junior partner at the ROH.


    Completely agree about Muntagirov/Ashton!

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  19. 10 minutes ago, Bruce Wall said:

    I cannot thank you enough for this, Irmgard.  I had been reading comments on this thread and wondering if it was JUST ME - being so disconnected from everyone else here.  



    Well you're certainly not disconnected from me, Bruce! I was simply trying to be as positive as I could manage to be about the pdd, given the circumstances and given my wish to support both the dancers and the ROH. So my comments were not as they would have been if this had been a normal 'première'.

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  20. 7 hours ago, FionaE said:

    Personally I think the RB made a poor choice this evening.   The white swan pdd would have been infinitely more poignant, especially given that these two dancers were denied their debuts together in Swan Lake due to COVID.  

    Anthony Pappano got it right by finishing the concert with the emotional duet from The Pearl Fishers.


    Or the R&J balcony pdd.


    It's as if the ROH thought it should be reflecting the times rather than helping us to escape temporarily from them! Reflecting the times is fine, and necessary, but only up to a point. Even though the singing was beautiful I spent most of the evening feeling thoroughly melancholy. And though I'm very much looking forward to next Saturday's programme, it could again be characterised as largely a load of melancholy songs... Very odd thinking.


    Having written that, I realise that the aim is presumably to show how 'relevant' music and ballet are. As if 'relevance' only means a close reflection of the times. But that's only one of the purposes of the arts, and not the most important as far as I'm concerned.

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