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  1. 10 hours ago, Peanut68 said:

    I have often wondered how come the whole ‘level up’ debate has not seen Elnhurst rebranded as Birmingham Royal Ballet School & Be the chief associated School with BRB - I think it is long overdue! Suspect issues around name change due to the legacy funding/covenants etc when established as Elmhurst but surely powers that be wouid very happily incorporate that golden ticket ‘Royal’ into any name & see it as providing huge extra kudos & benefits! This wouid go some way to level up, thumbs up to the old North/South Divide & actually make a more level chance playing field. I also think it wouid do RBS no harm at all to feel they have to prime their students first & foremost for placements with RB. Afterall, that’s the point of an affiliation surely? To train for entering linked companies....so wish that were more true....& so wish more who have done main training within UK (& dare I say, who are U.K. residents??) got more opportunities & jobs. It’s so troubling to see how very often it’s an international competition winner gifted entry into third year RBS who then gets the RB/BRB contract.... does nothing to boost our own dancers or training establishments. 

    There are so many parents that have voiced exactly these issues. Especially those that have come through White Lodge. Makes the purpose of White Lodge under question and it’s government funding etc. 

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  2. On 21/11/2020 at 07:52, Jan McNulty said:



    Which is not entirely accurate.  Of the current roster the following dancers have Elmhurst on their bio (around 10% of the current company):


    Rosanna Ely

    Ryan Felix

    Miles Gilliver

    Emma Price

    Hamish Scott

    Joseph Taylor


    Other dancers, now left, also came through Elmhurst including James Barton and Nathanael Skelton who were the first 2 accepted into the company after the relationship with the school was announced.


    If you look at the bios throughout the company the dancers come from very diverse backgrounds and different schools.

    I appreciate the point you make about the diversity of the company - however my point was the results of Elmhurst as evident in their placement of students in their own associated company BRB. And in particular I was pointing to the last 4 years or so as documented in the graduation destination announcements. It’s clear that in current history the numbers are pointing towards RBS grad intake. I appreciate that other dancers join the Company throughout the levels and from other places.  But my issue was the Elmhurst students as graduates getting full contracts at BRB as compared to the total number of RBS kids getting full contracts at grad. Also it’s worth pointing out that the apprentice contracts have been allocated to Elmhurst kids.  I can only speak to what my experience has been via my daughters years at RBS and looking at the documented press releases over those years comparing the two schools. I acknowledge that companies are full of various dancers from many schools. That wasn’t my point in this post.  

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  3. 4 hours ago, cotes du rhone ! said:

    I feel the choice of US is mainly influenced by the destination/success of its graduates and/or the academic back up plan/plan B. If plan A career doesn’t work out, and let’s face it the current employment situation is dire, what have you to fall back on ? Even Elmhurst’s 2 A levels make access to higher education difficult. 
    There is an awful lot to consider in year 11 😞

    Totally agree - it has also been the case that the Elmhurst students don’t get into the BRB at graduation- even though supposedly attached to the company via the school. The RBS kids get the opportunities. Also the A levels as a back up plan - much needed in this current climate and probably the future as well - are not enough for uni and especially more popular degrees in business and tech. My daughter had to go and do a transition diploma to boost her 2 A levels from RBS grad as a B-Tech not considered acceptable in Australia. Cost her another year of student academic fees and slowed her down getting her degree. So I think students need to get all the information about the ballet course and employment path and their plan B going into  any school. Don’t believe all they tell you and don’t believe the advertising. It’s good that Elmhurst are trying to operate a school with diversity etc. But to be frank that’s what’s required at any institution around the world  A normal school wouldn’t be praised for saying they are operating an institution within the acceptable social norms. 

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  4. 7 minutes ago, Farawaydancer said:

    I don’t know about the RAD, but I know for certain that there are teachers who tutor students at their own schools (not their own students) in academics, and whether it is prohibited or not is up to the schools management to decide. I also know the judging ‘conflicts of interest’ happens at dance competitions.  My point isn’t that any of this is right, it’s more the assumption that this is all news to anyone. Neither of my dc are under any illusion that the ‘best’ dancer always gets the role or the contract. It’s not hidden at all and therefore hardly needs ‘bringing into the light’. It’s just how it is in lots and lots of careers. 

    It does need to be transparent. It’s not right. And just because that’s the tradition - and people accept it and work the system - doesn’t make it acceptable. Nor should it continue and not should people be paying into a corrupt system and the government shouldn’t be funding it either. Time for change is here and transparency will make it happen.  

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  5. 7 hours ago, Farawaydancer said:

    But education of any sort isn’t a level playing field. In any school there are kids being tutored, sometimes by staff who work at the school. Neither is entry to any career a level playing field. In many it’s all about who you know. All you can be concerned about is what you and your family do; leave everyone else to make their own decisions about what they’re prepared to accept, in the ballet world or any other. 

    Firstly even the RAD prohibits a teacher assessing their own students as blatant conflict of interest. All schools in academic schools prohibit staff coaching for cash their own students. Even at ballet comps there would be outrage if a competitor was a student of the judge. The point is not you taking advantage of a bias system where others can’t. It’s the system that needs to be recognised as biased and able to be distorted- by money - needs to changed. It’s ok to practice hard and get your kid every facility you can - they can be the best possible dancer. But the “who you know “ Aspect distorts the level playing field and destroys the students belief in working hard and striving for improvement- which they are told constantly at these top schools - that it’s their fault they don’t get the role or a job etc - not that another student has a “who you know “ contact to get ahead or be showcased. The system needs to be brought into the light for all to see ! 

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  6. 7 hours ago, Farawaydancer said:

    There are many, many teachers at vocational schools who have associations with other dance institutions and teach at various places, sometimes their own students, sometimes students from other schools. It’s quite clear in the promotion materials that this is nothing to do with RBS as such. 

    As far as the premises go, the school will have rigorous RAs in place with regard outside lettings. The resident students are on exeat on those weekends. 

    I think my point is that the instance of conflict of interest in ballet world is in the example where - for example - your child auditions for a spot at upper school. They get 1 class to show their capabilities. They could be in a class against another student who was coached by the AD privately. A student who had attended a us summer school and had a series of private lessons by the AD or a student who is connected to a teacher or panel member either via family or past teaching. Would you feel that it was a level playing field for your child.  Another example is - would you be comfortable if your child was in a class and competing against another student who’s mum paid a current teacher at the school to teach at her own summer school in the holidays. That same teacher then selects students for rolls in performances et.  


    Its this type of conflict of interest that needs to be highlighted and addressed. Its going on in major schools. Parents need to ask what is the schools conflict of interest policy.  Is it available to all parents. Are the parents aware of the conflicts in their child’s class. It’s a business in which opportunity is on a selected basis and can be hidden in style or artistic choices - the perception of conflict is as important as the actual conflicts. I’m saying. - go find out what’s happening at your child’s school - find out if it’s a level playing field. You wouldn’t accept it in a normal school. Don’t accept that ballet world is different. Go ask. 

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  7. 7 hours ago, coniger said:

    But it’s not associated - no where does it say it’s associated - Christopher Powney already teaches at other places and he is a patron of it taking one class  - only one - for a programme that has many different days.  Sorry I don’t see it your way but that is the beauty of this forum so lots of people can put their opinions forward.  If I sent my DC I don’t remotely see it as a way to the royal ballet school but maybe I’m in the minority! 

    I believe that people promoting their ballet summer schools or extra programs around the ballet world all know that the attraction for students - especially the ones wanting to progress to a career in ballet - need to offer not only fabulous teachers but a showcase type aspect to influential directors and sponsors. This is especially true to RBS and other top schools. Why is it then people go to Prix or YAGP etc to name the top comps. For showcasing as well as scholarships. It is naive to believe in this ballet world that exists today that a student can get a top spot at an upper school without showcase to an AD or via an influential teacher or comp winner. Just look at the kids in the schools. Look at the offers received at Summer schools for automatic entry/ entry to finals/ international scholars etc etc. Why do you think RBS offers endless audition opportunities as part of their spring/ summer schools and why it’s a widespread thing now across the world. Not only is it a money spinner - huge boost to their coffers - but sells the hope of getting noticed and therefore entrance to the RBS programme. The other poor kids are sending in photos and videos and praying !!!  The issue about conflict is so clear - when you put it in context. Is this course more attractive to students because of the showcase opportunity directly to the AD of RBS and the location than it would be if it relied on the reputations and expertise of the course teachers alone. To be blunt - ballet world is currently under the spot light. The time has come for the situation for ballet students to be considered in the same regulatory and legal environment as every other institution and ballet world has to stop believing in its own exceptionalism . This should include the way courses are advertised to students. 

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  8. On 19/10/2020 at 01:52, Emma northmore said:

    An exciting new collaboration between myself and Didy veldman.


    We are delighted to be offering masterclasses for Vocational students to be held at White Lodge, Richmond.


    We are very pleased to let you know that Chris Powney, Director of the Royal Ballet School, will be teaching our first senior class on 14th Nov and watching the juniors.


    As our Patron Chris will take classess periodically.


    Its a course to further the contemporary aspect that is so vital today.

    Each date runs 10am to 4pm at £90 and rotates through various added elements;

    14th Nov contemporary solos

    28th Nov Movement 

    19th Dec Choreography etc.


    2hrs of Ballet, Contemporary class and 'solos' for example.


    We are looking forward to helping the young dancers of today fulfill the requirements to succeed in this current world of Ballet.


    www.balletboost.com for further info

    Email; danceenhance@yahoo.com 

    Isn’t there a conflict of interest here when applying for a position at RBS. Is Mr Powney excusing himself as a AD when deciding on the placement of these kids in White Lodge or Upper School. I was under the assumption that RBS staff couldn’t coach individual students who then gained a place at RBS. If it was an RBS course then there wouldn’t be an issue. It seems blurred lines here - a course offered by a company so close to an RBS staff member in RBS buildings but not by RBS staff and I assume run for profit. Not for the benefit of RBS. This looks a difficult position for the AD and conflict of interest perceptions. 

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  9. On 08/08/2020 at 23:19, Thecatsmother said:

    Teaching resilience is important but certain basic things need to be in place in order to be able to reach this point. If a dancer feels threatened or is unable to trust the system (understandably in many cases) then I very much doubt they would ever get near looking a issues such as resilience. When anyone is in a great state of fear as a result of a systemic dynamics or past experiences then it is clear in the hierarchy of emotions that fear will top anything else as a young person is trying to keep themselves physically and emotionally protected.   

    The problem is that this really needs to be addressed at a systemic level amongst staff in schools as so many teachers are actually re-enacting what was done to them even if on an unconscious level. Perhaps if we could start to help the teachers, directors etc to heal emotionally then they can be in a better place to hep dancers. There is a culture of ‘we had if much tougher than you’ that still exists and reinforces the problem. 



    Agree. Often there is a carry forward from past experiences of the teachers. I think that given the experience of my daughter and what has been said to me - the RAD or the schools inspectorate needs to step in. They need to oversea a training and registration system that teaches the teachers what is the acceptable communication and mental health protection strategies that are required in a modern system. In an instance we saw the teacher was suspended after a confrontation with a student - disgracefully in a parent viewing day. The Mum called him out about humiliation to her student in an open class. Parents obviously complained and teacher was suspended for a week. That’s not good enough for all concerned - the teacher needs help to re-train. It was very brave of the mum. The teachers - from my experience and we pointed out the damaging impact of language to students and also actions. If an AD steps in to a rehearsal and openly removed students from roles in rehearsals. That’s damaging. We requested a side conversation to limit damage. We demanded changes to the way students are spoken to and the mental health consequence. We are still fighting for better mental health and communication in ballet schools. 

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  10. 1 hour ago, Jane said:

    If you don’t feel able to speak to your son’s school about his anxiety please consider investigating private counselling for him. He needs some help with his anxiety. It is unlikely to disappear without support. 

    The school should have counselling as part of the staff. And if that’s all full they usually have a connection with an outside counselling service. If should be viewed as any other medical service like physio or go. I know that it’s supposed to be kept separate but unsure that rule is kept. Anyway I know my daughter sought counselling and waited in the line as all appointments always booked. However I insisted and she got a few sessions and got more as the counsellor realised she needed help. Maybe ask for a confidential talk with the medical staff 

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  11. 6 hours ago, NJH said:

     It's a  hard watch but  very  relevant 

    unfortunately while the behaviours and focuses may be different it is behaviour all to common in other settings as well  

    My daughter had mental health issues after a very difficult graduate year at a uk prestigious ballet school. She needed considerable mental health treatment from psychiatric doctors and therapy. This treatment at the school and associated company required a lot of rebuilding of her confidence and belief in a future. She’s not the only one - and she’s a very confident and articulate young woman. But even she was shattered. This was despite my constant requests for help ( in person and email) for her from the school AD  He and teachers made the assumption that he believed she was ok as she appeared “stoic” and “coping “. My daughter knew that if she collapsed in a heap and let her emotions out in class she would be told to act professionally and learn resilience. It would be held against her. If this was a normal school ignoring mental health issues and openly commenting in a class situation regarding a students emotional state - the institution would be in serious trouble. Parents need to look at the situation as a service and a school environment- if you are unhappy with the service you are paying for call that school management to account ! If it says school over the front door your child deserves to get all the usual protections dictated by law. 

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  12. On 05/10/2020 at 20:17, alison said:

    Brave woman for speaking out on this.  She must be far from the only sufferer, and support is clearly needed - dancers, I think, tend to be perfectionist and self-critical, and there is much scope for problems arising.

    I agree. Also the state of the way schools and companies are run - people feel that it is detrimental to show any failings of faults. As pointed out in the article it is often thrown back at you if you show any vulnerability. The girls are constantly told they are all replaceable - so they hide their anxieties and mental health concerns. This starts in schools and is carried to professional careers. The issue of mental health is a serious problem in ballet as an industry. Needs to be brought into the modern workplace and the language and behaviour of artistic directors and teachers needs to be called out. 

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  13. On 07/10/2020 at 08:10, DD Driver said:


    So true!  In Australia, people often observe how dancers in one of our top company do not look like the students in their associated school.  Of course some did not go to that school or joined in the last few years.   


    As a parent, you can only say to your child: I don't understand this.  Isn't the job to be beautiful and talented 'in motion'?  All you can do and control is: aim to be the best dancer that you can be.


    I always remember how normal Torvel & Dean looked in interviews.  On the ice they were sublime.

    Agree again - I’ve seen Australian situation and UK. Also my daughter had first hand experience of a favoured student being very slow to pick up choreography in a newly choreographed ballet with a very famous uk choreographer. It got so bad that the practice run was stopped and the persons difficulties pointed out - the comment was despite how great you look your useless to the company if you can’t do the dance with the rest of the corps. Despite being known for slow pick up of choreography and being constantly replaced by other dancers this person is now in the job and employed. Crazy ballet world. !!! 

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  14. 15 minutes ago, DD Driver said:

    Nama - the phrase 'it's a skinny contest' often comes out of my mouth.  Especially in relation to auditions.

    The best opportunities for my DD are when an AD sees her in action for 3 or more days.  That is, sees the dancers doing classwork, learning choreography and showing musicality and artistry. Sigh...

    Totally agree. We’ve all experienced it. In auditions kids get cut and sent out after the first exercise on the barre. That is certainly a size issue. Also the size maximum listed on coy audition criteria. That’s ok - we all know what they want. But be honest - don’t waste people’s money and time and the damage done to the candidates confidence who are rejected and don’t know why. The kids watch the candidates and know who is a better dancer. They see the technical faults and know that size is a key factor. Many of the students in my daughters graduate class were constantly injured and unwell. They had no stamina and fitness. That’s why the healthy strong kids danced more filling in endlessly for the favoured student as they were too ill to dance. Vulnerable to damaged legs and to diseases. Just too unhealthy to maintain the demands of daily dancing. It’s ironic that seeing those same super skinny weak dancers have bulked up to almost normal levels when in coys and the daily requirements have necessitated healthy habits in regards to food. So why chose the skinny weak ones then require them to eat properly and get muscle tone when they’ve got the job in the coys. This is particularly evident in the famous coys 

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  15. 18 hours ago, Thecatsmother said:

    Yes. The medical info and help is readily available and everyone knows. But - the industry is at fault. Look at the winners of prix etc. Skin and bone for the winners. My daughter and I have seen girls for years eating just nuts. Carrots and orange juice for a main meal. And that includes in the boarding houses. Girls with bone density degradation at 19. No periods for years. Hair falling out and excess hair fuzz growing on arms and back. All the signs of eating disorders. And teachers in class that praise weight loss. They must think that the dancer is not healthy. The measuring for costumes on the largest girl and making comment if it fits so and so it will fit everyone. Measuring for students to do an exchange with an over seas school. It’s subtle but the dancers know the language- the whole industry does. The comments. She’s a strong dancer. She’s tall. Needs to tone up. Lengthen the body. All language about size. If schools produce healthy dancers then the coys have to take that shape. It shouldn’t be governed by a beauty parade first and if they can dance second. Otherwise why are we paying to train these kids. If it’s a skinny beauty contest. Then admit it is. Don’t pretend to the parents paying the fees and stop taking the tax payers money. Even the summer schools are a beauty parade based on a photo. This industry is toxic to kids and I know as my daughter been all the way through to the very top and walked away. Happy she’s now judged on all her personal attributes including her brain in her new career. 

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  16. 21 hours ago, Peanut68 said:

    I couldn’t agree more with your comments Kanamgra! 

    Including this odd obsession with ‘’banana feet’..... there is frankly a hideous picture being used in latest ENB round of marketing where dancer in centre  is pushing so far over her ?(too soft?) pointe shoes and then with knees that sway back to such an extreme that her legs are like the shape of a violin....it’s actualky quite ugly.... what has happened to the appreciation of ‘pure classical libe’??  A straight leg line with the pointed food merely being an extension to the length of those limbs? I’m not decrying that there is naturally a various in shapes & dimensions & angles & vice la difference! But I have seen over years an ever increasing worrying trend for young dancers  to think ‘the infustry’ favours the more extremes in sway backs,banana feet, over splits, extreme back bendiness..... & they (& more worryingly their parents & teachers) are ‘adjusting’ their training to try to achieve these extremes......at risk of damaging young bodies & perpetuating this nonsense. 

    Ballet is sadly becoming more like watching circus arts..... makes me very sad & angry. Why are we such lemmings? Yes, an amazing dancer may naturally exhibit one or more of these ‘‘extremes’. Well, that may be their personal unique ‘skill’ or appeal.... why does that then mean we just want clones of that person? I want to see real bodies, real people, real minds, real emotion..... real ART!! 

    I agree.  I’ve seen students so thin they don’t even fit the child’s size leotards. They are skin and bone. Praised by the teachers for beautiful line  but over be t feet and sway back legs. No muscle or tone - just like a very skinny child not a young woman. The downside is numerous examples in those classes at the top level are starving for that shape and over exercising. Many cases of told to sit out and watch until a few kilos return - but as soon as teacher leaves - excessive training again. And the message it sends to the class is loose weight to that level and you will be praised. The opposite is the dietician appears at the class door and hands you a note for a visit. The message is lose weight to become as the one teacher says “ audition ready”. Very negative cycle. All get to the lowest point to achieve success or be left out of casting.  The top schools say it’s not happening anymore. Yes it is. Yet they hide behind fancy statements of pastoral and nutritionist and equipment. 

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  17. On 10/09/2020 at 16:29, sillysally said:

    Thanks Aklf and Peanuts68 🙂  I think my internet browser was automatically loading a stored page 🤪 I'm happy to learn there is no compulsory video. 


    On the topic of dance videos I welcome any tips or hints that others have learnt whilst making audition videos....


    Our dance school is not so helpful with making videos .... they charge for the studio time and do not help with the music or exercises.  It is up to the child to decide what to include.  They dont even stay in the room. It's really a hands off approach. 😝


    I appreciate schools have different requirements so we must film certain exercises that are requested by each school, but I think its going to be a challenge for us.  I'm hoping I can adequately film with my iPhone!


    If anyone has any tips about what to do or not do, I'd really welcome any help.  



    As a tip for ballet audition videos - there are loads on YouTube and you can see they tend to follow a pattern. Ideally practice beforehand loads and get the teacher or coach to help. Especially with the angle and fine tuning. I’ve been told loads of time that they tend to scan through so a good strong start is always a good idea. 

  18. On 28/08/2020 at 06:29, cornishprincess said:

    taxi4ballet: Yes. At 16 young people need a greater level of pastoral care and as you say the places in my experience which offer a degree do not seem to take this into account. I was appalled on the audition circuit when my dd who would only just have turned 16 was expected to be as mature and accountable as an 18/19 year old...coming from a small town and going to a large city, I was not happy when the principal of one school said that they took no responsibility for the pastoral care of their students once off the school property. The school had no dedicated accommodation or facilities other than beautiful studios. She went elsewhere

    From the experience of my dd it is also a question of the level of pastoral care provided by the schools attached housing set up as well. The whole concept of pastoral care across the school needs attention. The idea a school can say we have done enough for the students - or that they had more attention than any other etc - fails to recognise that all students have different pastoral and mental health issues at different times. The system needs to be flexible and accommodating. A duty of care is a human issue and a moral one too. The schools inspectorate needs to look further and question more widely. 

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  19. 8 hours ago, annaliesey said:



    thank you for saying this!!  

    we need to stop uni partners withdrawing like this as it punished the students and not the abusers! 

    This is precisely why people don’t come forward sooner because this will not be forgotten now in future. 

    I think that there needs to be a good look at the various schools complaints policies and practices. Speaking from experience it’s very daunting to initiate a complaint and to follow through to a conclusion is very draining for parents and students. The fact that parents and students struggle to be heard and know that the experience will be combative. There needs to be an independent body outside of school governors and staff that parents can appeal to outside of getting lawyers and challenging the school. Independence is the key. 1 supposed independent person on a school initiated panel ( as required under schools inspectorate guidelines) is not enough to ensure justice for parents who have genuine complaints. 

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  20. On 02/08/2020 at 03:06, Coffeemum said:

    Thecatsmother, so much of your post rings true. An eating disorder is a symptom of one or many issues and it is indeed, a silent way of expressing distress. An understanding of the child's distress is key to helping them. My dd had an unhappy two years at her school and the eating disorder (and I call it this as even though it was mild in comparison to others, I feel a mental illness shouldn't be difficult to talk about) was most definitely a symptom of the way things were handled over those two years. And I totally agree with you over a school needing to be careful about who and more importantly how, they visibly promote.  A few months after leaving her school she is healthier and happier than I've seen her in a long time. It's enormously difficult for schools to get their handling of eating disorders right for everyone though, but a kind, caring and nurturing environment surely helps. Also, good and non combative communication with parents is key, too. 

    I also believe that in order to become resilient in the arts, or indeed anywhere, the right encouragement and support is needed or confidence will always suffer, no matter how one seems to be 'dealing' with it on the outside. I say this as someone who's been at a vocational school (not ballet) and works in the arts. 

    My daughter was at a uk ballet school and has since graduated and quit ballet. The idea of resilience and being “ stoic “ despite the situation around the student and whatever issues they are dealing with was always called “ professionalism” and it was expected of the students at the school. They are told to make it in the industry you need to exhibit professionalism.   Also the feeling that troublemakers or complaints would be held against the student. Especially if parents complain and seek clarification of the treatment experienced by the student. Also the weighing of students was regular and constant. The passing of a note to a student in class to attend the nurse or nutritionist- openly done and everyone in the class knew it meant issues with body.  The whole body image was marked on the assessment form each year. You did get a number ranking. You are spoken to about being “ audition ready”. Students were removed at the last rehearsals as being too big in the eye of the guest choreographer. Costumes were sometimes sent from Japan and girls who couldn’t fit the costumes were told they couldn’t dance in the performances. Praise was openly made in class when a student had lost weight. Weight and size are a constant for girls - even the audition applications around the world ask height and weight as the first questions. Some company applications restrict height to even apply. The image of the girls is paramount to this industry and seems to be if they have the right look but lack the technique etc. They still get offered a job or place. I’m sure nothing has changed - but the  schools need to appear to have changed their process to protect children and their management. It should be remembered and enforced (by relevant authorities) that these are schools and they have a duty of care to the students first. And this should be in co-ordination with the parents and with full disclosure to the parents at all times. 

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  21. Totally agree with comments made by Goldenlily17 about RBS. The situation with casting has become very unpleasant with the majority of the kids. Large number of parent complaints and kids openly complaining to stafff. These are not the young kids either that don't comprehend the "industry practice " these are young adults that have been at the school for a number of years and have contact with external professionals who agree the treatment of the students is not in line with their industry experience. And yes I do have a dd at RBS - so I know directly what I have seen and heard. 

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  22. As a mum of a DC who went through the WL SS from a young age to WL full time and now RBS US student. I can say that things appear to have changed over the years. Increasingly it seems SS is offered as incentives at competitions internationally and the focus is shifting to international competition dancers. The chances of getting into the SS appear tougher today if these other places are prioritised over the online applications.

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