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  1. Wouldn't get through any quality assurance I've been involved with at UK universities! I don't think you can combine the high level of intense technical study of dance in the studio with a high level of intense technical study of literature (an English degree isn't just a matter of reading a couple of novels in your spare time ....)
  2. Would it be feasible to do some industry auditions now, for her to see how she compares? Things like cruise ships, adverts, theme parks etc. That said, there is excellent training available for adults in Birmingham - have a look at the programme for DanceXchange - she could probably do two classes each day of the week there, and a ballet class early Saturday morning at the beautiful studios of Annette Nicholson in the Digbeth cultural quarter. It's one of the (few) things I miss about living in Birmingham. Also have a My knowledge of the Birmingham Students Guild/Union is now a few years old, but my main problem with the student dance society there (and at the university I work at now) is that they tend to have students teaching students. I've seen some awful ballet & people on pointe who really shouldn't be! So a serious dancer would need to find other teachers/studio with serious professional teaching.
  3. Alternatively .... You could look at the 'Russian Ballet Workshop' run by Isabella Mackay-McGuire. She trained at the Vaganova Institute and now teaches at Danceworks, London, but also runs these workshops. They're for vocational students, but maybe inviting her or her colleagues would be easier (and cheaper)?
  4. The other thing to remember is that the so-called 'banana' feet are developed in part by training - a lot of the way the foot develops that shape is through muscle, and muscle training and development. It doesn't just happen!
  5. This was circulated on a list I'm part of. I know nothing about it, other than this notice.Enquiries should be directed to: cambridgeunidancesociety@gmail.com The Cambridge University Dance Society (CUDS) proudly presents our first “Dance x Science” Panel Event to explore collaborations between dance and science, not as separately bounded fields but as different ways of knowing, working (with), and making knowledge and bodies.Date: 10 Feb 2020Time: 6.00-8.00pmVenue: McCrum Lecture Theatre (next to the Eagle pub)We have invited 5 esteemed dance and science professionals to join us in an interactive panel discussion. Information about our panellists is included in the poster attached.
  6. I wonder whether a concerted attempt my registered dance educators - maybe bringing together RAD, ISTD, BBO headquarters organisations, plus the Heads of the ENBS, RBS, and other top vocational schools, could complain about the standard of bodily safety on a programme such as The Greatest Dancer ? (the most inaccurately named programme on television at the moment, except perhaps for Love Island). And maybe the organisations who run the competitions in which child dancers are rewarded for doing acrobatics etc could start to impose limits and penalties in points, to dissuade - or even stop - tricks which involve moves we know are bad for most young bodies. I think that, unless the rewards are removed, we will see more & more young bodies damaged. Problem is, we don't know at 11 whether the extreme moves that a young child seems able to do, will leave her/him with a damaged body at 40. And thank you DrDance for raising the issue. If you have any position or influence in any registering or awarding body, this might be something to set up a strategy/policy group for.
  7. Good to hear @York UK beginner I think a regular class with the same teacher, is probably one of the best ways to build your confidence and knowledge as well as technique. Hope it keeps working for you!
  8. I really enjoy Adam's class if I have a chance to take it at Danceworks (I don't really ever get to Pineapple - their classes are often only an hour). At Danceworks, it's labelled "Improvers" but I would class it as an Advanced Beginners (and certainly at a level below Advanced Beginners in New York!) - it's not for beginners definitely, but the centre work isn't hugely challenging in terms of complexity of choreography or length of combinations. But Adam is an energetic teacher who will push and challenge yo, if you're up for it. I really love te energy of his class, and he's particularly good on petit allegro. And a really kind and nurturing teacher. I wish I could get to his classes more often!
  9. And I agree with every word Ms Stewart writes in that article.
  10. I always advise people to dig into university websites to get beyond the (generally awful) UCAS-directed publicity bumf on the landing pages. Go to the Departments of the disciplines/subjects your daughter is possibly interested in studying and you should get a sense of what it’s like to be a student in a degree. It’s also often quite informative to look at the student union (or student guild) web pages to see the for-students, by-students experiences. and if you can cope with the Wild West of the internet, you can read “real student” experiences on The Student Room. I know my university’s PR people keep an eye on fora on TSR. The trick is to try to get past the PR, and find where students are talking about their experiences.
  11. Thing as that what 'life might look like' is going to be as varied as the individuals living those lives! There is a lot of development, learning and growing between 14 and 18/19, the age young people generally start university. There is also - as other posters have said - a lot of gathered experience and a LOT of wisdom in this forum, from parents and dancers, about what decisions they made, and why, and how it's worked out. It's probably worth following some of the tags that Alison has kindly included to see if other people's experiences and questions chime with your own. What are your DD's interests? What does she enjoy studying at school at the moment? What ideas for a career does she have? If dance is going to be a "serious hobby" then these other questions are going to be the ones she needs to explore. Again, these are questions that your DD, you, and her teachers can explore. And as other posters have said, there are lots of university students who've studied dance to a relatively high level, but go on to do degrees in other areas, and keep dancing through university and beyond. There is a thriving adult ballet world, with some pretty major teachers developing wonderful teaching for adults via regular classes and workshops and intensives.
  12. I tend to agree with those who say that "the body doesn't wait." In certain circumstances - given the basic physical facility, and aptitutde for training. As well as everything mentioned above. Academic learning can be done at any time of life in all sorts of ways. There is FE and "night school." The Open University, for example, enables module by module study. Yes, they now charge the same fees as all other universities (because State/Government funding for teaching in HE has been almost totally withdrawn) but you can pace the study to fit around working in full-time employment. The main things at the moment are to balance the information you have about your daughter's potential, abilities, and level of achievement in dance now, with her aims at the moment, and with information about her academic abilities and likely achievement. Her dreams need to be founded on a base of realism. Her teachers - both dance and academic - are best placed to help you here. We can't see her, and so don't know whether it's worth throwing all her plans into dance, or keeping a balance. You can go onto the UCAS website and search for particular disciplines and see the degrees available. I really think doing this, together with consulting teachers who know your daughter (both dance & academic) will be far more useful than paying for or chatting to an adviser who doesn't know your daughter. You could also keep an eye out for Open Days and so on, at FE colleges, and even universities in your area - for example, in the West Country, Plymouth University runs a pretty practical dance degree - mostly focusing on contemporary dance. You could lookout for student showcases to see what they do. And so on. And there's loads of experience here on Balletco from people who've been exactly where you are with their dancing children.
  13. I'd echo AnnaC's advice. Most university Dance degrees focus on contemporary/modern dance, and are to greater or lesser degree vocational - some focus on preparation for a professional career at the highest level (eg Laban, London Contemporary, Rambert)** others give a more all-round Humanities/Liberal Arts education via Dance eg Roehampton.** I think the other place for advice is your DD's school teachers (as well as dance teachers). While they may be generally not hugely knowledgeable about preparing for a performing arts degree/profession, they will know what broad spread of subjects will give your DD the range of choices in post-GCSE education. ** There are others, these are off the top of my head, typing fast in my lunch break! ...
  14. Aah, that's useful to know. My error - I was confusing this Summer Intensive with one of the many SIs in the US that use the tag of 'Bolshoi dancers' or Bolshoi teachers.' Any connection with Russian ballet has a strong cachet in the USA, and there's a huge Russian influence in training there, because of the generations of emigres and refugees from Russia, since the early 20th century.
  15. I wear a leotard and black tights over the top. In this weather it's usually a long-sleeved leo, and I wear knitted wool shorts as warm-ups, and a thin cotton long-sleeved t-shirt. I can't bear baggy stuff when I'm dancing - I like everything firm & tight, including my hair - which is very long and always pinned into a bun. I've tried just a pony tail but I hate it when I'm turning or doing a cambre forwards. I tend to do pliés and tendus in socks, and then change into my canvas shoes - I really like to work on warming up my feet as close to the floor as possible.
  16. I note you've said this - maybe a phone call to City Lit to ask if they'd allow you to enrol as you're less than 12 months short of the age limit. They may say that 19 is a clear boundary, or they may say you can enrol. Re costs: most ballet classes are 90 minutes long. 8 classes is thus 12 hours, so a termly enrolment works out at £12.50 per hour. For reference, the National Living Wage (for jobs which generally (not always) require few/no formal qualifications) is due to increase in April 2020 to £8.72 per hour. £150 in a lump is a lot of money, but the rate is not expensive at all - in fact, it's very cheap - especially considering the tutor is unlikely to receive the entire £12.50 - as there are other costs involved - studio, heating, lighting.
  17. Any ballet class you go to will feel odd and disconcerting for the first few weeks. You just have to bear with it. If you attend regularly, teachers such as Ms Scarlette and Hannah Frost (also at Danceworks and Central School) will start to help you & coach you. If you think £150 is too much (although you are paying for expertise at a rate of less than £10 per hour which is pretty low) then you might try Hannah Frost's Friday evening class at Central School of Ballet (Clerkenwell). It's a basic beginner's class. She also teaches very good beginner's classes at Danceworks on Wednesday, Friday & Saturday. She'll correct you, she'll note that it's your first time learning, and she'll advise that you need to give it a few weeks/classes. There isn't a magic way to get up to speed except by doing class and it will be difficult & feel weird at first. There really isn't a magic formula to get past this stage. You have to go through it!
  18. I think Alex Simpkins sometimes teaches such a class at Pineapple. About a year ago in Nina Thilas-Mohs Sunday class at Danceworks, Mr Simpkins was in class (he's always such a lovely dancer to watch & learn from in class) and Nina mentioned he'd be doing a series of classes based on John O'Brien's style. We actually did a couple of exercises at the barre based on the O'Brien methods f continuous flow of port de bras. Lovely stuff!
  19. Thing is, we all know that "the stars of tomorrow" will quickly outgrow the standard "2 lessons a week in a church hall" type of school. And it's about perspective: the child sitting in straddle splits you mention needs to do that** to keep up her body. She might have been looking scornfully at other students in the class - or not. The other students may have assumed that, projecting their own insecurities. Who knows? It's actually quite tough being the "phenom" in a context where ordinariness is the norm ... What is perceived by others as favouritism may well be a teacher desperate not to hold back a talented young person, whose parent may disapprove etc etc etc. Edited to add: the school @balletbean describes sounds amazing - what a wonderful combination of care for the exceptionally talented and for those who simply enjoy learning to dance. What is the magic ingredient? It sounds as though it's a case of success breeding confidence and generosity. So often, lack of generosity is a result or a symptom of feeling pushed, starved, or lacking in resource. ** Well, actually s/he doesn't need to, as it's not safe, but that's a different topic!
  20. And happens at universities as well, both internally, and via the system of External Examiners. So - totally normal - and necessary!
  21. Peanut68 this is what someone in Birmingham did - and I still try to get to the classes she arranges when I'm in Birmingham on a Saturday. She used to use DanceXchange but now organises through another studio. Her vacation classes were very popular. It was a lot of work, I think, but she was very organised and business-like - really wonderful organiser & a dream to work with. Very clear arrangements and business-like - you knew what you needed to pay, what the conditions were & so on. My only grouch was the ballet mothers who sat in the studio and chatted during the summer classes, and who got in the way of us dancers when we were lining up to go across the floor. In my view, they shouldn't have been allowed inside the studio, but I don't know what pressure they put my friend under to watch their daughters ...
  22. Happy birthday, merry Christmas, and huge congratulations and thanks - this message board is my daily "must read" and it's such a lovely place to share my bunheadedness! Thank you to Ian, Dave and all the Mods for making it so!
  23. You might find useful first-hand information on this Summer Intensive (and many others in the USA) on Ballet Talk for Dancers As far as I know, this is not a summer course run by the actual Bolshoi Ballet - the title reflects the Russian-based training in many US ballet schools.
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