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  1. I meant to say I think 16 and 17 year olds should be treated as minors in regards to confidentiality unless government law suggests otherwise.
  2. I wonder how universities other than dance universities deal with minors' confidential information; do they disclose it to the young person's parent(s)/guardian or not? It may be rare for students to go to university before nearly a legal adult however I would not be surprised if there are plenty of university students who are not 18 yet because of a late birthday et cetera. I do appreciate that it is not the same thing as a 16 year old doing a degree course in dance. I don't exactly understand how the fact that a young person under 18 is doing a degree course (in whatever) would mean that they are be treated as legal adults in terms of confidentiality. Also, does UK government law allow that for a young person under 18 (I don't know)? I agree that where the majority of students in a particular course are of a similar age and under 18, then the needs of that age group must be considered especially in terms of health and safety and confidentiality issues. Personally I think that the maturity of 16-17 year olds may vary and that one minor may be ready to independently live away from home responsibility while another may not be. However, I do think that unless the that 16 and 17 year olds should be treated as minors in regards to confidentiality (I don't know UK government law in regards to what this would and would not permit).
  3. While this thread was originally about 16 years old being treated as legal adults in terms of their information being withheld from parents, I appreciate you expressing your perspective. I underatand that students's backgrounds and relationship with their family differ (though I think other than in very exceptional circumstances confidential information about a university student or employee 18 or over should not be shared anyway) and agree that that it would be unreasonable and even immoral to break the law in order to share confidential information about a student. You said "you can't get a degree for being ill". I agree that you shouldn't get a degree SOLELY for being ill (what one should get a degree for is for satisfying the course requirements), and there is nothing wrong with leave of absence or even quitting university when it is in one's best interest, whether because of medical or other reasons. Although personally I have decided to start my university studies (and I was nowhere near a top student in terms of grades in secondary school), I do not believe that university should be considered compulsory or that ANY student (even the most academically able) should be forced into going to university. However, while I see absolutely nothing wrong with a person deciding not to go to university even when they have the opportunity (as long as the decision was arrived with logical thinking and consideration of facts),a I think university may be the right decision for some students, and that likely includes students with an illness or illneses (I am not disagreeing that a medical leave of absence or withdrawal from university could appropriate in some situationa). While one shouldn't get a diploma or degree solely for being ill, one absolutely should get a degree for passing and finishing course requirements needed to obtain the diploma or degree despite illness.
  4. I think it is appropriate that the confidential information of students aged 18 or over is not shared without the student's consent except in very exceptional circumstances (i.e. the law requires it), since in most places including the UK people aged 18 or over are legally adults. I do not really understand why the same rules would apply to students aged 16-17 doing degree courses when they are not legally adults. I wonder whether how other actual university students under 18 (e.g. gifted student, late birthday) would be treated in regards to what information can be shared with e.g. parents in most other unis? I do understand though that even for students under 18, sharing information with parents could make the situation worse, but then that could apply even to a toddler or young child.
  5. "Bluebird22, "I'm curious as to how old are your students? If they are relatively young or if they are new to sewing I think it's very understandable that their sewing skills are not excellent yet. It's great that they are trying! It's also great that you are taking the time to help them find ways to improve their sewing! As I'm sure you know, any skill takes time and practice to learn amd master! I do not live in the UK, however my secondary school mostly followed the British academic system, and until Year 10 Design Technology which did include a sewing machine course was compulsory, as well as Food Technology. However, I'll admit I don't think I really know how to sew myself, and persnally I'm not sure a short sewing machine course would translate to excellent hand sewing skills, also some students have additional needs that may make learning to sew more difficult (but probably possible in many cases). List of sewing videos (I'm sure there are other sewing videos too): "How to Thread a Needle for Hand Sewing – Beginner Sewing Tutorial 1": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S6u173Ap2mc "Hand-Sewing | Basic Stitches and Techniques": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FknfumFPX8 "Learn How to Sew by Hand: Six Basic Hand Stitches": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FknfumFPX8 "How to sew ballet ribbons": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JF "9 Simple Sewing Techniques To Enhance Your Dance Costume": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9irRkC6K8fg "EPISODE 9: Basic Stitching Method for Pointe Shoes": https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W-K3eJHuGJ4 "How To Sew Ribbons and Elastics on Pointe Shoes by Limbers Dancewear":
  6. The 'Ballet Talk for Dancers' website has a 'sticky' about "general age-appropriate guidelines": https://dancers.invisionzone.com/topic/54927-general-age-appropriate-training-guidelines/ In my non-expert opinion, the best way for a young male student to prepare for audition for a vocational ballet school would be, in addition to trying to get at least some all boys' classes, to also get ballet training that could train them up to the level required both in quality and quantity to get into a vocational ballet school at a certain year. If feasible, perhaps look into auditions for associate dance schemes to supplement your son's dance training? I would think the older a male ballet student (who wants a dance career) is, the more essential it would be for the student to get male ballet classes.
  7. Though coming from someone who has limited paid work experience, I agree that it would probably be a good idea to focus more on your skills than a specific job. Perhaps look at marketing jobs related to dance? Did you have any post-secondary school education or training? If so, maybe (or maybe not) you would want to use that? You could look at job vacancies at different organisations related to ballet or dance and see which jobs you could apply for. If practical, perhaps you could study event management and try to find event management jobs related to dance? I'm not sure how feasible this is, but perhaps you could consider dance critic? You could also try to find work as a receptionist or an administrative job at a theatre, or at a dance studio? If you want and if practical, perhaps you could improve your sewing skills and see what jobs that utilise sewing are related to dance? I also thought of stage design, though from research that may require higher education. You could also look at Dance Magazine or Pointe Magazine or other sources for information about dance related jobs. I agree you don't necessarily have to change jobs for ballet to be part of your life.
  8. They did not join a dance company or pursue dancing as a career, however eventually in the secondary school years they decided a performance career in dance wasn't what they wanted. My point in reviving this thread was just in case anybody reading this either knows someone who doesn't like or finds reading difficult, or doesn't like reading themselves; and in case they or someone they know could possibly benefit from technologies to help with reading.
  9. I realise that this thread is a few years old, and I also don't know about life in dance companies and what reasonable adjustments could be provided in that context, but I just wanted to mention that if one finds reading difficult one could buy or download technologies or softwares to help with reading (e.g. read-aloud pen/C-pen, text-to-speech software).
  10. "Crystaltips", I just read your original post again and realised the sibling's gender was not specified so it may be a brother or a sister, I should have said "sibling" instead, sincere apologies for the mistake.
  11. I don't know that I have a lot of advice I can give, however I'd say that as someone who has never trained full time in dance but has taken dance recreationally, I would definitely not be happy with the music shortage, at least not on a long-term basis especially if anything at all could have been done about it. I know that there might be some who disagree, but I am not comfortable with unreasonable favouritism in dance whether recreational or vocational - most parents or students are paying for dance training, and even if one has got a full scholarship for dance what is the point of a school giving a scholarship to a student if the teachers are just going to ignore the student in class? I know it is possible some teachers might require more of a student than others because they seem to be capable of doing more, but to me that is different to just completely ignoring a certain student just because they seem to not be as capable as some (also, I feel that anybody who has got into a vocational dance upper school must have quite a high proficency and aptitude in dance just to get in). Personally I have a sibling who is more academic (ability-wise) than me, and in my opinion since your dancing teenager's sister is not her and may have abilities in different areas to your older child, it may be of limited value for your dancing child to base her goals on her sister (though I do believe one should try hard in everything they do including academics). If I was in your child's position, I would want to keep up with my academic schooling if feasible just to keep my options more open if nothing else, however in my opinion there are also meaningful (not necessarily high-paying) jobs which do not necessarily require the length of training need for dance that do not require a university degree. I do not think cramped accommodation in educational settings is limited to vocational dance or art schools. If the accommodation is literally unsafe or unhygienic for your child though, then I definitely think it may be wise to find other accommodation. Personally there was a time I wanted to eventually dance professionally, but looking back I obviously didn't want it enough or I'd have made an effort to get into more full-time dance training. The point am trying to make is for me personally, fortunately it really wasn't dance teachers' treatment of me (mostly quite positive) that put me off a dance career. There was one dance studio I went to where the classes I attended felt less 'soft' (I'm not saying this is wrong) but mostly not what would put me off training for a dance career. While your post did not explicity mention abusive behaviour from teachers, a poster in this thread mentioned emotionally abusive behaviour from a teacher directed at the poster's child. I may be wrong, but unfortunately I think emotional abuse is far less likely to be recognised (both by parents/students and as a legal case) than physical or sexual abuse and possibly neglect. I have to wonder, 1. Why would teachers even choose to teach or to continue to teach if their intention is to abuse students, 2. Would teachers who have abused students have wanted their own teachers to abuse them, and 3. How did they even come up with the idea to mistreat students? Ignorance is not an excuse for abuse and it is even worse when teachers who know that what they are doing can damage a young person actually does that toa young person. As for attitudes about questionable behaviour "preparing students for the dance world" (that I have read for example on this forum), how does mistreating students prepare students for the dance world at all? Yes one of the vocational dance school's aims is to prepare students for a potential dance career, and to say that abusing students is preparing them to me is like saying children may possibly starve to near death in the future therefore we should let children starve to near dearh, or that children may possibly be deliberately physically injuted to the extent of needing hospitalisation therefore we should deliberately injured children to that extent. Does that make any sense at all? Of course it doesn't. Besides, I don't know that it is even true that abuse is the norm at dance companies (but I have no firsthand knowledge), and hypothetically even if it is, it absolutely doesn't have to be. I definitely do not think questionable teaching methods have been limited to dance unfortunately, and frankly I think that as long as humans have the capability of doing evil things there can be no 100% guarantee a student would definitely be safe in an educator's hands. Abuse is never excusable, and there is always time for dance teachers (at least those who have not been abusive) to either maintain or change their teaching methods for the good of their students. (Your post did not explicitly mention abuse so I don't know whether or not your child has been instructed responsibly, besides the favouritism, but I wanted to bring this up because I feel strongly that teachers have a duty to instruct students in a responsible manner). Personally I do not think it is a given that a student at a vocational dance school absolutely has to definitely want to dance in a professional dance company, though if there are only a few graduating students finding work in a professional dance company this probably points to the statistical unlikelihood of obtaining work in a dance company (unless as unlikely as it probably is, the students chose to turn down dance contracts). So, I don't know whether or not your child should stay at the dance school and perhaps since I have limited knowledge about and no firsthand experience related to training at UK vocational dance schools, I have almost no idea which vocational dance school this is. The most troubling things to me in your post that stand out, besides the favouritism, are the often changing timetable and lack of music in dance class, which would make me reconsider attending even a recreational or non-vocational dance class on a regular basis.
  12. Sorry, I have just sent the message again; I apologise for how long it is.
  13. "Motomum", I have sent you a private message, hope you don't mind.
  14. Is there a way to find private messages you have sent (I have sent a private message but can't seem to find a copy of it)?
  15. No, this is not for an official survey nor for any official project or any official academic study; I was just interested to understand how and why others became interested in dance, their backgrounds, other areas of interest they may have and whether or not they intend to pursue dance as a career. Personally, though I once dreamed of pursuing dance professionally I am now planning to pursue another career field.
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