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Is anyone else's dc having a bit of a confidence crisis? Dd is getting worried that she isn't good enough to get into any upper school, plus coping with the pressure of GCSEs, homework and fitting in her ballet classes and has had a few emotional outbursts already.

Does anyone have any tips on helping her deal with all the pressure - goodness knows how she'll be once auditions start :( Sorry if it's posted in the wrong place. 

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Jaylou, just be reassured that all the kids are all going through the same stressful time, and believe me it is stressful. The way we got through it was to say that if you didn't get the school that was right for you , then you could always apply the following year or after A levels. This took the pressure off the situation. The kids can only do their best on the day and it literally is only a moment to shine. I hope a little of what I have said helps, but yes this year is very hard. Good luck.

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Am I correct in thinking that ENB does NOT offer academics in the form of A levels? I understand students graduate with a Diploma in Dance which is an education in it's own right, but in terms of actual school classes such as Maths, English etc, it is not an option available? I've searched their website to confirm this but still wasn't 100% sure...

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As I understand it, ENB does not offer A levels, but Royal and Elmhurst do and Central and Rambert are degree courses, with degree funding.

 

And... following on from earlier, I assume that although students do get places in year 2 and 3 of upper schools, clearly places will be even harder to attain in these years than for first year.

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Don`t you have to be specially invited to attend the Graduate Class at RBS? I didn`t think just anyone could turn up and audition for it.

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Jaylou - it is a stressful year but you may find at this stage the anticipation of what is to come is worse than when the auditions start. My DD felt a lot better after that first audition when she could see that in her words - she did not stick out like a sore thumb for being worse than the others. With my DD we also reassured her that she could try again the following year or at 18, that it wasn't the end if she could not go at 16. My DD enjoyed every audition she did and came away happy for the 'extra' ballet class. The fact that she was so busy with GCSEs and ballet classes did mean she had no time to dwell on any audition or its outcome. It is undoubtedly hard year but remind her that at least she has a long summer break to catch up on anything she feels she has missed out on. For my DD this was a social life as for the most part she just did not have time to see her friends outside of school. Good luck to your DDs and yourself this year.

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Hi all - I am wondering if any of you have DC who are at Northern Ballet School (Manchester) or if not, participated in the audition process last year. If you are willing to share your experiences of the school and the diploma offered I would be very grateful. Many thanks

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Talking of Northern Ballet School, I've found that it's quite hard to navigate around their website. It doesn't seem to matter which computer I use either. Is it just me, or has anyone else found this?

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Talking of Northern Ballet School, I've found that it's quite hard to navigate around their website. It doesn't seem to matter which computer I use either. Is it just me, or has anyone else found this?

We struggled too, there appears to be a scroll bar I'm the centre ....

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We struggled too, there appears to be a scroll bar I'm the centre ....

 

Exactly, you use it to scroll down until it drops off the bottom of the screen and you can't get any further down to read the rest of it.

 

Glad I'm not the only one.. ;)

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My daughter auditioned at Northern two years ago. It was all very pleasant with a physio assessment and an interview with the director after the ballet class. A nice audition and not stressful as far as we remember.

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Northern Ballet had a tour round the facilities to start with a Q&A session with the director.Parents then were sent away as they did their auditions. As tulip says physio and interview followed. Questions were along the lines of - why you like to dance, what you hoped to achieve through your training, if you knew what direction you wanted training to take you, your ideal job - all quite general questions and quite chatty and relaxed. It was my DDs 1st ever interview and she came out smiling. One question I know they ask, because they told us parents is - how many GCSES do you take/have taken and how many GCSEs are/are predicted to be at grade C or above. The director was quite adamant she just wanted to hear a number and not have someone talk about them or be adding them up mentally or out loud when she asked the question.

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Besides the stress of all the actual auditions, I would just like to pre-warn everyone to be prepared for the possible unexpected costs as well! Last year when my dd did all her auditions, I had budgeted for a certain number of hotel stays (for those schools which were a long way from home), but what I hadn't planned for was some of the early arrival/audition times at many of the more closer schools! Maybe we were just unlucky, but for both my dd's auditions at Tring & Rambert, we had to register at 8.45am and for her RBS, ENB & Central it was 9am. Because we did not want to risk travelling on the morning in the rush hour (stressful enough, without having the added worry of traffic or train delays!!) this consequently meant that I had to book an overnight hotel stay for those as well, which for London in particular certainly was not cheap. So that was an additional 5 hotel bookings on top of the 2 for Elmhurst & Northern, which I had originally planned for. Then add to that any further ones for Finals, an absolute small fortune was put on my credit card! Maybe we were just unlucky getting all the early slots, as for some they got lunchtime or afternoons. Guess it's luck of the draw. But just be prepared.

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Its her life is so spot on with her comments! Include everything in your budget for audition season. I really adds up. Saying that ...its wonderful to be a part of this very exciting year for your dc. Make the most of it and enjoy the special moments you have together cause when they get that place and start next september you wilk miss them!

We made a revision schedule for dd gcse that started early so that she was less stressed and that worked well. She came out with excellent results but was very prepared and that was key as academics other than math and science aren't her thing.

Also, we talked a lot before each audition on getting a yes or no and how that would affect dd. It helped me know the places she really wanted to get and her to see that it wasn't life ending if she got a no. Have a fantastic plan b and a wonderful plan c in place so worse case scenario your dc will know she is ok.

I know one girl last year that got finals at several top places but no offers...she has gone on to her plan c to study medicine i believe ... good luck to her...she will earn more no doubt!

Good luck to all. Long year ahead but all performing arts students who really want to make it are very driven ...that inner strength they have will prevail. As parents we worry more than them sometimes!

Pm me anytime if i can help. X

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Its her life.... was it all worth it though?  Did you DC get into an upper school?  With the actual cost of ENB and Elmhurst being £17k and £27k respectively if you earn over £70k, it makes you wonder if it is worth spending the money auditioning.  My husband does earn over £70k, which sounds a lot, but with four children, there is not a spare £20k a year floating about!

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As well as auditioning for schools in the UK dd is sending DVD auditions to 4 schools in Germany. German ballet school's tuition is free for EU students. The schools use Vaganova style training.  

 She is applying for John Cranko; Hamburg; Munich and Mannheim. The websites are:

 

http://www.hamburgballett.de/e/schulgeld.htm

 

http://www.en.john-cranko-schule.de/admission/

 

http://www.heinz-bosl-foundation.com/

 

http://www.muho-mannheim.de/frame.php?path=/wirueberuns/Ballett

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A quick and unashamed  plug for the wonderful Royal Conservatoire of Scotland.  

 

The course is a 3 year degree course,  student funding available. 

In the current first year there are 10 students.

The studios are very modern.  

There are close company links with the Scottish Ballet (students visited in their first week, and actually used the studios for class as the Genee was using theirs ..).

Students generally live in halls for all 3 years, with pretty much exclusively RCS students, from a variety of courses. 15 minutes walk from the studios.

Very generous bursaries are available.

RAD training also encouraged.

Actively encouraged to be part of the wider artistic community

One very happy DS - except he has to be in early so can't always hang out with his mates on the jazz course who don't start until 11!

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I know that the school you mention Meadowblythe is new. However I think they have had two years of graduating students. Are you able to tell me where these students have gained employment. Just being nosey really.

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Others on this forum  will have more info than me but I do know  that they had very high rates - when I last asked this question (last april) they were expecting 90% plus for the year  that were graduating - destinations mentioned were Ballet Wales, Northern Ballet and several going to the Far East.  Afraid I can't remember the details.

 

Bear in mind they are talking fairly small numbers.  To be honest we felt that these were people  we trusted to give our son the best chance of finding employment, so we were prepared for him to take his chances at the end of the course, or at the very least, to gain an excellent training along the way.

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I know that they do have a good teaching faculty. I am just curious with it being new their graduate destinations. A huge well done to the students gaining employment in these difficult times.

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My Central form printed off okay - but The Hammond one has come through a bit fuzzy - as if I was reading it after several glass of good red wine! ;)

Cripes it is SO stressful isn't it??

F x

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Could anyone tell me how if you audition for hammond how important it is to be good at singing ?

My dd wants to audition bit is put off by the fact IOU have to song.

She can just about hold a time ;)

Sorry if posted in wrong place

I'm a complete newbie.

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Hi Mad House, welcome to the forum.

If you and your DD are interested in Hammond I would not be put off by the fact you have to sing.  The dance part of the audition comes first and if a candidate impresses in dance I imagine they are looking for potential as much as anything else in the vocal.  They will know who has had vocal training.  Don't forget that although it is a common audition for a common first year, the course splits into dance and musical theatre strands in year 2.  I doubt anyone is equally strong at dance, vocal and acting and I imagine they do choose candidates both on their existing strengths and their potential in their weaker areas.

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Thanks for your advice 2dancersmum,

She is hoping to audition for yr 12 will this make any difference in what they need to do in terms of singing and dancing?

If she were to get an audition she would need a very basic song she could sing .

Does anyone have any ideas on a something simple???

Sorry for all the questions

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