JohnS Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) In reply to capybara’s comment above Haven’t we been here before with that other memorable R&J public debut matinee for Yasmine Naghdi/Matthew Ball (3 October 2015) and again just one public performance? Edited April 14, 2019 by JohnS Extra post in between responding 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, capybara said: The fact that Sim has spent so much time and care on her review of yesterday's matinee performance speaks volumes about its overall superlative quality and the two central performances in particular. Yet these two young dancers, both at an ideal age to be cast as Romeo and Juliet, have only one public showing whereas more senior couples (and I do not include Ball or Muntagirov here), including dancers who have had the role for 10 years or more, are given three outings. I want an encore from O'Sullivan and Sambe and I'd like it NOW, please!!!!! In 2015 (yes nearly 4 years ago) two young dancers, one a soloist at that time (Yasmine Naghdi) and the other one a first artist (Matthew Ball) danced their debut as R&J. Everyone present that day was totally bowled over, shed tears, raved and gushed. They were given just 1 public performance, a Saturday Matinee.... That was it! Nearly 4 years later and we will finally see their highly praised partnership again. Mr O'Hare has to keep his Principals happy too and as such we get Osipova, Cuthbertson, Lamb, Nunez, Naghdi, Takada, Hayward (that's 7 out of the 8 female principals) dancing Juliet and all are dancing 3 performances. Only this season Takada was given the opportunity to debut as Juliet. There is first soloist Hamilton who has Juliet in her rep. too, and Stix-Brunell also gets the opportunity to debut. If besides those 7 female Principals, the 2 first soloists Hamilton and Stix-Brunell and 1 soloist O'Sullivan were also to be given three performances the R&J run would go on for several months! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmhopton Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, JohnS said: In reply to capybara’s comment above Haven’t we been here before with that other memorable R&J public debut matinee for Yasmine Naghdi/Matthew Ball (3 October 2015) and again just one public performance? Yes I thought that too. Also like, O'sullivan and Sambe didn't they do the school matinee as well? The only slight consolation is that when they came to perform it again they were given the cinema broadcast so perhaps this will also happen to Marcellino and Anna Rose in a couple of years or so (not that I want to wait that long!) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 As much as I LOVE Sambe and O'Sullivan Mr O'Hare has to give priority to his principal dancers in the worldwide cinema broadcasts. Only this Season did he finally start to show his younger principals Takada, Campbell, Hirano and Naghdi and Ball to a worldwide audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 21 hours ago, Balletfanp said: Let me guess - the brass section? It felt like the balletic equivalent of dropping someone/falling out of a pirouette/or simply not turning up for an entrance/turning up and then creeping back into the wings for a second. Luckily, the dancers didn't seem at all phased by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Sim, what a beautiful review. I think we must have been crying as much as each other - it ripped me apart. It's a been while since I last saw Romeo and I'm so glad I waited for this one. And I had no idea it was Acri's debut too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletfanp Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Darlex said: It felt like the balletic equivalent of dropping someone/falling out of a pirouette/or simply not turning up for an entrance/turning up and then creeping back into the wings for a second. Luckily, the dancers didn't seem at all phased by it. The brass section always jar on me. They let down the rest of the orchestra. Surely they can do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I'm just watching the new Swan Lake and I'm surprised they left the brass section's Act 2 gaff in the BBC broadcast...I hope they edited it out for the blu ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPD444 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Thank you Sim for such a wonderful review that said what I thought but could not put into words, which you have. This performance goes in a very special place in my head which only has my first concert, Sir John Barbarolli and the Halle in Oldham which introduced me to music, William Walton at the proms, Margot and Rudi my first ballet, Alina every time I see her, Frankie and Yasmin of the new bunch. The RB is in a very good place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Glowing reviews throughout - make me even more gutted that injury meant I was unable to stand through it . Still, at least the replacement ticketholder obviously thoroughly enjoyed it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 So sorry you missed it, Alison. I hope your injury improves soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sim said: They were great representatives at the Met in NYC a few months ago, and I strongly feel this partnership should be nurtured and encouraged. Dear Sim, Let me join in the chorus of praise for your glorious review; surely second best to actually being there. I had, myself, arranged my annual project in Munich in and around the Ballet Festival Week - knowing I could see six ballet programmes in five days - and certainly - as one must being responsible to and for a myriad of other people in my own case - long before the RB casting had been announced. I was heartbroken when I saw that O'Sullivan and Sambe were - like Naghdi and Ball before them - only being given one public performance at an early matinee during the time I was already committed to being away. I had been told that they would dance the dress rehearsal so played hooky - at some considerable personal expense - so I could go - only to find it was Takada/Hirano. I tried to wangle my way into the student matinee too given the circumstance but sadly no luck there either. Quite rightly I didn't get in. I will just have to wait it seems. I know - I KNOW - patience is a virtue ... but in this instance it seems - from a personal perspective - particularly gnawing. That said I did have the HUGE privilege of being at ALL of the O'Sullivan/Sambe performances in the City Center Balanchine Celebrations in NYC. That - like the O'Sullivan/Sambe third (first public) R&J - was too a very special event. I only want to correct your review statement that it was at the Met. It wasn't. It wouldn't matter - in most instances would be a minor matter - except the whole point of that exercise - of that week - of the City Center 75th Anniversary Balanchine Celebrations - was that it was five different companies - including NYCB and the RB - who were showcasing ballets that had been created by Balanchine on the very City Center stage. The O'Sullivan/Sambe Tarantellas were - as we saw with the Hayward/Sambe Combination on the Covent Garden stage - tantalising. Still for me it was the Tschai PDD that did it. It was both of their debuts in such. (I wonder when we will see them in that on the ROH stage? I have a feeling it may well be more than two years.) O'Sullivan especially glistened - as she beckoned the whole of her house - for that is what it became for that intoxicating duration - with her eyes - and the NYC/international crowd went ballistic. They were the only artists to be brought out in front of the curtain for a second time - and that by entirely rightful demand. Not that I'm prejudiced of course. (On a similar score, the combination of Summerscales/Acosta - now principals with the BSB in Munich - had nine - count them NINE - front of curtain calls - a massive 'red rush' if you like - last night following their stunning leading performances in Cranko's insolent Shrew. The Munich Company shone here as a whole too. Seven of the Summerscales/Acosta calls were AFTER the house lights had gone up - much as you kindly reported had been granted to the wonderful RB combo. They - especially Acosta and the surety of his partnering - have come such a long way since we last saw them with ENB. It was - not unlike the O'Sullivan/Sambe R&J which you so vividly captured - a privilege to be there. But that is by way of an aside.) Huge thanks - as ever - for ALL. Cheers, Bruce Edited April 15, 2019 by Bruce Wall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Thanks Bruce. I have corrected it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I've been trying to remember everything I've seen O'Sullivan/Sambe in- I was thrilled by them in the Nutcracker, and am sure I was wowed by their Neapolitan dance but can't find the programme. Bruce, you have certainly proved very prophetic about this partnership. I agree I want to see more. It is odd not to focus on nurturing the real thing when it happens. Sometimes when a performance doesn't quite do it for me, it is not the individual dancers, but the lack of a special partnership that is the reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Xandra Newman said: As much as I LOVE Sambe and O'Sullivan Mr O'Hare has to give priority to his principal dancers in the worldwide cinema broadcasts. Only this Season did he finally start to show his younger principals Takada, Campbell, Hirano and Naghdi and Ball to a worldwide audience. I wasn't referring to the cinema broadcasts. I understand the issues surrounding the casting for those. But I do feel that, after many years in a particular role, an argument can be made for a dancer to leave space for others - and, yes, I know there have been amazing 'older' Juliets such as Marion Tait. BTW, though they may be only in their third years as Principals, Hirano (36?) and Campbell (34?) are not 'young' in quite the same way as we have been speaking of O'Sullivan and Sambe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Mary said: I agree I want to see more. It is odd not to focus on nurturing the real thing when it happens. Sometimes when a performance doesn't quite do it for me, it is not the individual dancers, but the lack of a special partnership that is the reason. As has been said before Mr O'Hare seemingly does not favour nurturing special partnerships. Naghdi/Ball just one example (after their outstanding R&J debut); they have barely danced together since that very special Saturday Matinee in October 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said: As has been said before Mr O'Hare seemingly does not favour nurturing special partnerships. Naghdi/Ball just one example (after their outstanding R&J debut); they have barely danced together since that very special Saturday Matinee in October 2015. Weren’t they also paired in Sleeping Beauty and Giselle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 And The Nutcracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: Weren’t they also paired in Sleeping Beauty and Giselle? 1 performance in Giselle... 2 (if I remember correctly) in Sleeping Beauty 2 (or 3) Nutcrackers In a span of 4 years...I don't call this "developing a partnership". Edited April 15, 2019 by Xandra Newman typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) But how many missed opportunities have there been since then, by which I mean full-length ballets in which they have both been cast in roles where there is significant partnering together? It’s a genuine question - I can think of Swan Lake but what else is there? I’m not trying to trip anyone up, I just wonder how much scope KO’H actually has to nurture these partnerships. Edited to say I forgot Bayadere and Don Q! Edited April 15, 2019 by Lizbie1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I think/wish more than one public R&J could have been managed for Sambe and O' Sullivan. That's all ....This is the ballet in which to give priority to the young. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said: 1 performance in Giselle... 2 (if I remember correctly) in Sleeping Beauty 2 (or 3) Nutcrackers In a span of 4 years...I don't call this "developing a partnership". Emeralds The Unknown Soldier Swan Lake in Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: But how many missed opportunities have there been since then, by which I mean full-length ballets in which they have both been cast in roles where there is significant partnering together? It’s a genuine question - I can think of Swan Lake but what else is there? I’m not trying to trip anyone up, I just wonder how much scope KO’H actually has to nurture these partnerships. Their "partnership" in Swan Lake was an unscheduled one: Naghdi replaced Natalia Osipova in Madrid - last minute - with whom Ball was partnered. Full-lengths they danced together: R&J (1 public Matinee), Giselle (1 public Matinee), a few SB's and Nut's. Unknown Soldier was unscheduled as Ball was partnered with Hayward and Naghdi replaced her due to her outside Cats commitments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I do worry a little about the suggestion that because dancers have a particular role in the repertoire, whenever there is a revival, they should reprise their role. On that basis when Swan Lake is revived, how are others given an opportunity to make their debuts? I guess one of the real challenges for Kevin O’Hare is ensuring all dancers renew their repertoire and develop new roles which I think inevitably means that dancers will need to retire some roles. My sympathies are with Kevin O”Hare on this but I do think there’s a lot to be said for giving young dancers more opportunities in Romeo and Juliet. We’ve had two extraordinary double debuts (Saturday’s matinee and 3 October 2015) and a second public performance would have been wonderful. Yes, Kevin O’Hare does encourage and nurture his dancers and, being greedy, I’d welcome a little more - I still think a trick was missed with the Mayerling Mary Vetsera casting. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 OTOH, if other dancers are to be deprived of roles they have previously danced, then some sort of accommodation has to be made for them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I think the initial point made was that some dancers had been allocated three performances. As for accommodation: there are certain roles (Sylvia and Natalia in Month in the Country come immediately to mind) where perhaps only three dancers - usually senior principals - are cast in the main roles: perhaps that should be taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Yes indeed. The 7 female Principals each have three performances, the 2 first soloists have 2 performances and soloist O'Sullivan had a closed School Matinee and 1 public performance. The point for me is: does Nunez - at this late stage in her career - still need to reprise the role of Juliet? and Lamb? (at the expense of younger Juliet's who are far more fascinating to watch). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynette H Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I noticed from the cast sheet from Saturday's matinee that Guest Principal Coaches were given as Leanne Benjamin, Viviana Durante and Robert Tewsley. Benjamin and Durante are certainly names you might expect and have previously coached at the RB. But I don't recall Robert Tewsley as a coach before. Was he (very briefly) with the RB ? Does anyone recall him as Romeo elsewhere in his career ? I understood (from the streamed Insight) that Watson was coaching, but he doesn't get a mention on the cast sheet - presumably because he's not a guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Yes, I'm most disappointed that the revised cast sheets are still not showing the repetiteurs unless they are guests. I suspect a good repetiteur could make (hopefully not break!) a performance. Surely they all deserve to be credited, yet it seems that the only thing of interest is that the guests are sponsored by someone or other who has to be given a name-check? Would the guests be listed otherwise, I wonder? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said: Yes indeed. The 7 female Principals each have three performances, the 2 first soloists have 2 performances and soloist O'Sullivan had a closed School Matinee and 1 public performance. The point for me is: does Nunez - at this late stage in her career - still need to reprise the role of Juliet? and Lamb? (at the expense of younger Juliet's who are far more fascinating to watch). Well, I want to watch both Núñez and Lamb (who are superb interpreters of the role) just as much as I want to watch Naghdi and O'Sullivan. I find them all fascinating to watch. And I think you're being rather rude in describing Núñez as being in a "late stage in her career". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lynette H said: But I don't recall Robert Tewsley as a coach before. Was he (very briefly) with the RB ? He was a principal at RB for about 2 months (in 2002). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 So he was - down to dance Crown Prince Rudolf, I think? Did he guest as Onegin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Yes, guested as Onegin (3 shows), Siegfried (5 shows) and Albrecht (1 show). Plus three shows as Rudolf as a company principal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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