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And last night there were a number of clear notices about a cast change in The 2 Ps. I hope that arrangement continues.

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3 hours ago, bridiem said:

And last night there were a number of clear notices about a cast change in The 2 Ps. I hope that arrangement continues.

I didn't see any, so was blissfully unaware.

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34 minutes ago, ninamargaret said:

I didn't see any, so was blissfully unaware.

 

Oh dear. Mica Bradbury replaced Romany Pajdak as one of the Girl's friends. I saw signs - which I thought were a bit bigger/clearer than before, since I was actually able to see them - at the desk where I picked up the cast sheet and at the desk where ice creams are sold in the Amphi (so I assumed they were at all desks).

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Thanks Bridiem. There was nothing at either the cloakroom programme point, or the desk in the main foyer. It's all a bit hit or miss. And the ticker tape thing at the bottom of the screen not easily visible with queues of people at the counter.

But nice to see at least a couple of tables in the PH being occupied by visitors enjoying the food they had  bought in with them - quite a spread in one case, although they had had the grace to buy wine.

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39 minutes ago, ninamargaret said:

Thanks Bridiem. There was nothing at either the cloakroom programme point, or the desk in the main foyer.

 

Yes there was.  I took a picture of the notice at the cloakroom programme point and saw the one at the desk in the main foyer.

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An older man in full evening dress complete with top hat walked past us in the foyer a few minutes ago. I hope that all the "anti-elitist" ROH marketing people saw him & wept!

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15 minutes ago, Pas de Quatre said:

Perhaps BalletcoForum members should stage a protest by always wearing evening dress and hopefully top hats or tiaras everytime they go to ROH!

 

With the increased prices for Romeo and Juliet, I’d have to choose between buying evening dress and buying a ticket, never mind a tiara! 

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3 hours ago, Dawnstar said:

An older man in full evening dress complete with top hat walked past us in the foyer a few minutes ago. I hope that all the "anti-elitist" ROH marketing people saw him & wept!

Prince Charles?! 

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13 hours ago, Dawnstar said:

An older man in full evening dress complete with top hat walked past us in the foyer a few minutes ago. I hope that all the "anti-elitist" ROH marketing people saw him & wept!

 

Brilliant!  Wearing jeans or casual clothes has become so much the norm now, that I hope lots of young men start adopting this as a new trend.  

 

Now, where did I put my tiara?

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With the increased prices for Romeo and Juliet, I’d have to choose between buying evening dress and buying a ticket, never mind a tiara! 

 

A suitably draped pair of old curtains and DD's dancing tiara should do the trick!

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Talking of R & J,  how much will they have to put up the ticket prices before we, the devoted ballet fans, say "Enough.  I'm not going, I simply cannot justify paying that much for a single performance."

 

I've just had a quick look, and practically all of the seats in the expensive areas, where the seats are all over £100 each,  have sold out early in the run.  Later performances still have a good number in nearly every area, but I expect those to be snapped up when it gets nearer the date. Won't that cause the management to chortle with glee, and encourage them to shove another £10 to £20 on each price band next year?

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28 minutes ago, Fonty said:

Won't that cause the management to chortle with glee, and encourage them to shove another £10 to £20 on each price band next year?

 

...at which point I think someone should start questioning what the subsidy is for, especially if they continue with their policy of increased ticket prices in what used to be the cheaper seats.

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14 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said:

 

...at which point I think someone should start questioning what the subsidy is for, especially if they continue with their policy of increased ticket prices in what used to be the cheaper seats.

 

Sadly, I think the most logical response would be for the subsidy to be reduced even more, on the grounds that the ticket buyers are prepared to pay the higher prices.      

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16 minutes ago, Fonty said:

 

Sadly, I think the most logical response would be for the subsidy to be reduced even more, on the grounds that the ticket buyers are prepared to pay the higher prices.      

 

I don’t know - subsidies offer medium term security, whereas audiences can be fickle...especially when your people give out quotes effectively saying they’re trying to discourage repeat custom.

 

I think they’ve managed to convince themselves that they can have their cake and eat it: that first-timers will pay higher prices and that way they can meet ACE targets and increase ticket revenue. That may work in good times and when Swan Lake and starry operas are on, but IMO we’re beginning to see signs of that strategy fraying.

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6 hours ago, Lizbie1 said:

 

I don’t know - subsidies offer medium term security, whereas audiences can be fickle...especially when your people give out quotes effectively saying they’re trying to discourage repeat custom.

 

I think they’ve managed to convince themselves that they can have their cake and eat it: that first-timers will pay higher prices and that way they can meet ACE targets and increase ticket revenue. That may work in good times and when Swan Lake and starry operas are on, but IMO we’re beginning to see signs of that strategy fraying.

 

Tomorrow's 2 pigeons/vixen is still failing to sell. Shame for the students. Stalls circle and stalls will be half empty.  Will this be the first shock to their system? 

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18 minutes ago, Blossom said:

 

Tomorrow's 2 pigeons/vixen is still failing to sell. Shame for the students. Stalls circle and stalls will be half empty.  Will this be the first shock to their system? 

 

 Not necessarily. These shows are being offered as Student Standbys. The person next to me last night had paid £10 for her 'top price' seat.

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5 minutes ago, capybara said:

 

 Not necessarily. These shows are being offered as Student Standbys. The person next to me last night had paid £10 for her 'top price' seat.

Lucky students. Not so lucky ROH in terms of income.

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22 hours ago, Darlex said:

Prince Charles?! 

 

Sadly not! He appeared to be in a lounge suit rather than evening dress.

 

11 hours ago, Fonty said:

 

Brilliant!  Wearing jeans or casual clothes has become so much the norm now, that I hope lots of young men start adopting this as a new trend.  

 

Now, where did I put my tiara?

 

I'd love to see that. When I read books from the first half of the 20th century that have description of theatres full of people in evening dress I always wish I could see that. Unfortunately, as someone who worked 8 hours yesterday before dashing to the station to get the train down to London, evening dress isn't really a practical option!

 

9 hours ago, Fonty said:

Talking of R & J,  how much will they have to put up the ticket prices before we, the devoted ballet fans, say "Enough.  I'm not going, I simply cannot justify paying that much for a single performance."

 

I've just had a quick look, and practically all of the seats in the expensive areas, where the seats are all over £100 each,  have sold out early in the run.  Later performances still have a good number in nearly every area, but I expect those to be snapped up when it gets nearer the date. Won't that cause the management to chortle with glee, and encourage them to shove another £10 to £20 on each price band next year?

 

I went for the "I cannot justify paying that much for a single performance but I'm going to anyway even if it means I can't pay the rent on time*." option. Perhaps other people did that too. I've only seen R&J once before & that was a different production so I would like to be able to see all of the RB's production, and the casts were so tempting I couldn't pick just one.

 

*NB I live with my mother so am unlikely to get evicted for late payment of rent. This option is probably not to be recommended for those renting commercially!

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On 13/02/2019 at 19:21, Blossom said:

Tomorrow's 2 pigeons/vixen is still failing to sell. Shame for the students. Stalls circle and stalls will be half empty.

 

Now yesterday's  2Ps/vixen ...I wonder how many empty seats there were in the end?

 

For the last performance, tomorrow's matinee, most of the "slack" now seems to have been taken up.

 

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I think in a,strange way the ROH is encouraging the elitism that they say they are so keen to lose. Charging very high prices for starry operatic casts and ballets like Swan Lake and R and J probably causes no problems for those who want the 'Covent garden experience' and who treat a visit as a one off treat. My own R and J going is sadly reduced to one visit, in spite of very tempting casts. But the occasional visitor will probably bring more cash into the theatre by buying a programme, a meal, interval drinks etc than I will. And that's what they want, not a knowledgeable and dedicated audience.

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1 hour ago, Richard LH said:

 

Now yesterday's  2Ps/vixen ...I wonder how many empty seats there were in the end?

 

For the last performance, tomorrow's matinee, most of the "slack" now seems to have been taken up.

 

 

there seemed a lot of empty ones after the second interval, down in the stalls 😞

What's wrong with people?

 

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Were they families with schoolchildren, perhaps?  If you have siblings in the RBS work, you may be needing to get home early for school the next day, I suppose, and the bill didn't finish until 10.20 on the first night.

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On ‎12‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 19:24, Dawnstar said:

An older man in full evening dress complete with top hat walked past us in the foyer a few minutes ago. I hope that all the "anti-elitist" ROH marketing people saw him & wept!

Ah, he also had some sort of stick with him which looked as if he had come straight from the House of Commons and was Black Rod. 

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I had an extraordinary experience in the new "open up" environment last week. I went to the rehearsal of DonQ and then had some time to kill before a business meeting elsewhere, so I set up in the new area at the far end, where I could power up my Laptop and do some serious work.  Someone else joined me on the table for 4, also because power was available which was fine but then 2 of his colleagues also sat down and started to have a full board meeting!  I had no problem with that as I was zoned out doing my work, but I began to realise they were talking about really confidential things - yes "open up" in all senses of the word. 

 

I let it go, as I wasn't interested, but when I got up to leave, I did say to them something along the lines of - it's really risky to talk about things like this when you have no idea who I am.

 

I work for a company who constantly remind us not to have phone calls in public places (eg. trains)  / beware of who can see your laptop etc etc. It's basic common sense. 

 

They were genuinely astonished - oh we thought you'd have no idea what we were talking about!  Well, I'd have to be pretty thick if that was the case. 

 

At least I went to my business meeting with my Laptop fully charged and have proved that the ROH really has opened up. 

 

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2 minutes ago, JennyTaylor said:

 

They were genuinely astonished - oh we thought you'd have no idea what we were talking about!  Well, I'd have to be pretty thick if that was the case. 

 

 

Wow - maybe they had made some rather silly assumptions about ballet-going women.

 

(I am amazed at some of the business conversations I overhear on the train: when you consider how certain industries cluster geographically, there can easily be a competitor listening in.)

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Many years ago I had to report indiscretions in an open rail carriage that indicated the speaker was working somewhere in No 10 Downing Street, close to the PM.  I understand that the person concerned was subsequently removed.  That old wartime poster about "Be like Dad - keep Mum" had much to commend it.

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Once again, there were 5 seats empty in the front row of the Stalls yesterday afternoon. They were 'occupied' after the second interval by 'movers' but why, oh why, do their original owners not come - or not return tickets they can't use? There were people sitting elsewhere who would have given their eye teeth for those seats but were deprived of the opportunity to buy them.

 

 

 

 

 

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