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5 minutes ago, ninamargaret said:

in the good old days of The Ring at ENO i used to prepare a Ring Supper for husband and self to enjoy in the interval. A nice salad, dessert and a good bottle were all consumed in the auditorium, and we were by no means the only ones doing it. I think it would be frowned on now - and certainly not when I go to The Ring at ROH this autumn! But having seen their prices for a 'package' of dinners for that production i suspect there will be many surreptitious packets of sandwiches appearing!

 

Do we expect them to publish timings for the long intervals any time soon? It would be pretty useful to be able to make off-site dinner reservations.

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49 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said:

 

Do we expect them to publish timings for the long intervals any time soon? It would be pretty useful to be able to make off-site dinner reservations.

They should be able to tell you now, after all it's not a new production. 

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No way of knowing if they'll make any changes but here are the timings from 2012:

 

Das Rheingold 

150 minutes 

No Interval

 

Die Walküre

Act 1 67 minutes

Interval 30 minutes

Act II 95 minutes

Interval 80 minutes

Act III 73 minutes

 

Siegfried

Act 1 85 minutes

Interval 30 minutes

Act II 80 minutes

Interval 75 minutes

Act III 90 minutes

 

Götterdämmerung

Act 1 122 minutes

Interval 40 minutes

Act II 67 minutes

Interval 75 minutes

Act III 80 minutes

 

Note to moderators:  maybe these Ring postings should be moved to the Opera and Music forum?

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6 hours ago, Bluebird said:

Note to moderators:  maybe these Ring postings should be moved to the Opera and Music forum?

 

Done :)

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Out of interest, does anyone know how these timings compare to Bayreuth?

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It's many years since I last saw a Ring Cycle at the Royal Opera House and have booked for the Autumn.  I was surprised how long the intervals are and saw that in the early 1990s the intervals were 35 or 40 minutes.  I hadn't quite appreciated the length of the longer intervals but it certainly gives me plenty of time to enjoy supper in one sitting  - La Ballerina rather than in house I think.

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1 hour ago, CHazell2 said:

Why such long intervals?

 

For dinner, simple as that!

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Given the prices quoted by the ROH for their meal packages I would think.La Ballerina will be well and truly packed out! Think I'll take a crafty sandwich and hope no one notices.

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During the last full Ring cycle at ROH we frequented Zizzi.  They were very good at getting us all seated, served and finished within the hour.  We did try once at Wildwood which wasn't great.

 

(The Opera North Ring at the Southbank Centre was great, because two of the three long evenings coincided with market days at the Southbank Market, so we were able to avail ourselves of a variety of excellent seafood.)

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(I meant street food, not seafood. Too late to edit now...)

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3 hours ago, RuthE said:

During the last full Ring cycle at ROH we frequented Zizzi.  They were very good at getting us all seated, served and finished within the hour.

 

Did you book ahead? I'm wondering how geared up the local places will be to timings potentially being a bit off.

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Yes we did, though not far ahead - possibly on the day.  It was Cycle 2 if I recall correctly, so the ROH had had Cycle 1 to get timings right.  And this year it's Cycle 4 I'm attending so they really should know what they're doing by then!

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wish I was like a late friend of mine, who had been to Bayreuth when it was relatively cheap and easy to go to. He said he never needed food when seeing The Ring- - it distracted from the music! Sorry, but I need something to keep my body and soul together! I notice that all the reservations for interval meals for cycle 2, which is mine, are all fully booked so Zizzi etc should do a roaring trade. 

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Just recovering from seeing the second  cycle. Totally stunning with everyone in the cast on top form. Huge applause last night at the end of Gotterdamerung with virtually the whole audience standing. I wished the technical staff involved could also have been applauded - it's such a complex production it must be a nightmare to stage!

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Many thanks ninamargaret.  Looking forward immensely to the 4th cycle.  When you've recovered, please would you be able to confirm the timings Bluebird's post above was for 2012?

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9 hours ago, JohnS said:

Many thanks ninamargaret.  Looking forward immensely to the 4th cycle.  When you've recovered, please would you be able to confirm the timings Bluebird's post above was for 2012?

Those timings are pretty accurate, in fact for this run they were very slightly quicker, except for Gotterdamerung act 3 which was 5mins longer. Rheingold finished 2205, Valkyrie 1020, Siegfried 2100 {Sunday performance so started at 1500) and Gotterdamerung 1020,plus thunderous and very deserved applause. Hope you'll enjoy it, I loved it and feel quite sad now that it's over.

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On ‎10‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 09:55, ninamargaret said:

I wished the technical staff involved could also have been applauded - it's such a complex production it must be a nightmare to stage!

 

I heard (via Sarah Connolly's Twitter feed) that there was a technical hitch in the first cycle's Walkure which caused a slightly lengthened interval - the fire devices have to be tested and are prone to not doing what they are supposed to.  I think she must have been talking about the flame thingy that comes down the spiral track when Wotan summons Loge - which I remember causing problems in previous runs of the production.

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I suspect it's a production that is easily plagued by technical hitches! All the more credit to the ROH's technical team.

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It can be very temperamental.  I saw a Gotterdamerung in the last run where Valhalla was no more than lightly scorched at the end

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1 hour ago, Lindsay said:

It can be very temperamental.  I saw a Gotterdamerung in the last run where Valhalla was no more than lightly scorched at the end

That didn't happen this time!  I was sitting on the extreme side of the SC and I could really feel the heat. Very impressive.

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As part of another discussion on the Forum I wrote recently:

 

>>Just one recent example: last Monday's opening of Act 3 of Gotterdammerung. The (sadly so often awful, lazy) brass section led off with some horns who even for them were really not bothering. Half the amphitheatre burst out into exactly the sort of pure natural instinctive laughter any career comedian would be delighted by. This sound no doubt reached at least the ears of the conductor, and perhaps led later to some firm words and a bit of practising (even if not, as I would counsel, some re-auditioning and perhaps early retirement). 

 

However I am wondering whether my long-held view about that section might need an adjustment. There was recently rather a thoughtful and informed review of the same show, followed by comments ditto, on a New York-based website. Deep in the comments they start discussing the brass section in Gotterdammerung (which the reviewer had picked on)

 

http://disq.us/p/1wbizjg

 

If one reads the comments from this point, the issue does seem to be somewhat more complicated. Are there any horn players on the Forum who feel like adding their thoughts?

 

Edited by Geoff

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I would be more sympathetic if the brass were exemplary in non-Wagner performances but they are really not.

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