balletgremlin Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Anyone else looking forward to the new RAD syllabus coming in the new year? I've found a video showing clips from the DVD - https://www.radenterprises.co.uk/discovering-repertoire More info here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I'm quite interested to see how this works out. My teacher trialled the program last year (not with me) but I don't believe she has plans on continuing with when it's formally released. I wouldn't mind giving it a go though, one of my favourite parts of syllabus classes is learning the dance! Quite interesting that the performers on the DVD are clearly adults, considering the usual syllabus DVD I was expecting children. Seems they are definitely directing this towards adult dancers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancingShoes Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Definitely not all adults as I know one of the girls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletgremlin Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 To quote the press release:: Quote Adults of all ages are coming back to ballet: for fitness, for social reasons, or because they have rediscovered their passion by seeing their children dance. Our research also shows that adults want to be challenged, to progress, and to feel a sense of achievement. Discovering Repertoire will deliver this satisfaction, enabling them to learn and dance the ballet repertoire that they know and love, and be assessed in smaller, more manageable and less intimidating units of work. My teacher is looking forward to teaching it to our advanced adult ballet class and also as an additional class for her students who've finished grade 8 and want more than just their vocational lesson every week. I'm just looking forward to doing more dancing and learning a new syllabus and new dances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimi'smom Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Viv said: Quite interesting that the performers on the DVD are clearly adults, considering the usual syllabus DVD I was expecting children. Seems they are definitely directing this towards adult dancers! They are all Elmhurst students - year 11 and grad year x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mimi'smom said: They are all Elmhurst students - year 11 and grad year x Oopsies, my mistake! I've been watching the Intermediate Foundation DVD religiously for the last few months so I think that's what I was expecting. Hopefully I never witness a crime where I have to guess anyone's ages Maybe they were just all so talented I couldn't believe they were still students Edited November 19, 2017 by Viv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimi'smom Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Viv said: Oopsies, my mistake! Hopefully I never witness a crime where I have to guess anyone's ages Maybe they were just all so talented I couldn't believe they were still students Well you weren't wrong really...grad year are 18 and 19! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_rebecca Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 19:27, balletgremlin said: Anyone else looking forward to the new RAD syllabus coming in the new year? I've found a video showing clips from the DVD - https://www.radenterprises.co.uk/discovering-repertoire More info here I'm looking forward to this more than is healthy sadly my teacher passed on the opportunity to trial this a few years ago, I'm very much considering letting Grade 7 go for rep level 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I may have let my teacher talk me into doing Grade 7 and Intermediate AND Advanced Foundation next year...so I think rep would be a bit much on top of that. I love the Coppelia variation in level 1 though! Ah well, maybe I'll get the opportunity eventually I do envy all you in the UK who get to do repertoire intensive workshops, that sort of thing doesn't really exist where I live. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletgremlin Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 I've got plenty on my plate too Viv - grade 6 & intermediate exams and rehearsals for two shows, along with 7,8, AF and Advanced 1 classes, pointe classes, adult classes & contemporary when I can make it. There just isn't the time or money to do all the dancing I'd like to. I have enjoyed several of the RAD repertoire workshops they've put on at Elmhurst in the past but it'll be nice to be able to work on something for more than a morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pups_mum Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 This looks like something that could appeal to older teens who have done all the graded exams but want to keep dancing as a hobby. I noticed quite a few at DD's old dance school used to drop out completely at that stage or stick with modern and tap but give up on ballet. It sounds like this could follow on quite nicely from grades 6,7 and 8 for those who enjoy the challenge of having a goal to work towards but for whatever reason don't wish to take the vocational exams. I can think of quite a few of my DD's old friends who were very nice recreational dancers but got bored with ballet in their mid teens. I think this would have kept their interest much longer. It's good to see the RAD trying out some new ideas. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_rebecca Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 21 hours ago, Viv said: I may have let my teacher talk me into doing Grade 7 and Intermediate AND Advanced Foundation next year...so I think rep would be a bit much on top of that. I love the Coppelia variation in level 1 though! Ah well, maybe I'll get the opportunity eventually I do envy all you in the UK who get to do repertoire intensive workshops, that sort of thing doesn't really exist where I live. If you find who your RAD area manager is they may be able to get something together, if the demand is there they'll put them on normally, I'm working with the RAD to bring more adult workshops to the north as I think there's demand for it up here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, sophie_rebecca said: If you find who your RAD area manager is they may be able to get something together, if the demand is there they'll put them on normally, I'm working with the RAD to bring more adult workshops to the north as I think there's demand for it up here. Almost certainly there is demand, given that the stuff KNT do fills up well and Leeds TBRs fill to full within days of Hannah announcing dates. where i am leeds etc is a little closer / easier than Birmingham etc , but as long as suitable studio space is available stuff could be done anywhere, barring egos and interniecene stuff between the awarding bodies Like anything you have to be prepared to take the risk with the first few events but once established ... in Viv's case Down Under at least they have RAD infrastructure in place so will be able to crib from the experience of the RAD in the UK . in the metropolitan /coastal parts of Aus i suspect the issues will be much the same as for anywhere, if she;s more inland catchment / travel will change things Edited November 22, 2017 by Nicola H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Nicola H said: in Viv's case Down Under at least they have RAD infrastructure in place so will be able to crib from the experience of the RAD in the UK . While there are adult dancers in my area, the whole notion of intensives and master classes are almost non-existent for those over 18. One company started up in 2015 to run a 2 day workshop specifically for adult dancers which has seen a lot of demand, so maybe that'll lead to further developments in that area. Another problem comes from the RAD staff in this area, who have openly told me they think it's weird that an adult is interested in syllabus at all. Maybe this new syllabus will change that idea If they start running rep workshops for kids I may try and argue my way in Good luck at bringing more workshops up North @sophie_rebecca Not to derail the conversation... If anyone is wondering what the Coppelia variation looks like, the choreography I remember from watching the girls at my studio last year looked similar to the first minute or so of this video 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Viv, re attitude of RAD in AUS, tell them to stop being such flaming galahs and talk to the RAD in the UK about both their adult stuff in general and Discovering Repetoire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I started learning the Level 2 Coppelia variation for this today. It's so beautiful (and fun!) and the development exercises seem really well designed. My teacher and I are going to be doing it in a fortnightly private lesson to try and work on exploring artistry, without sacrificing technique. Has anyone else started learning this yet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletgremlin Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 I'll be starting level 4 in March. My teacher's got all the materials, just wants to get exams out the way first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I was hoping the RAD HQ Dance School might introduce it, but have heard no news as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird22 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Non RAD teacher currently teaching the level 3, it’s brilliant really enjoy it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 @Bluebird22 Do you mind me asking which variation is studied in level 3? On youtube I've been able to find versions of the Coppelia one for level 2, and the Swan Lake for level 4, but the level 3 one escapes me. It'd be nice to see what I might be progressing towards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletgremlin Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 @Viv - according to the specification Level 3 variations are Princess Florine (girls) and Prince Desire (boys) from The Sleeping Beauty and the pas de trois from Paquita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cara in NZ Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 DD is enrolled for Adv F, Grade 7, and Rep Level 3 (our school year is only just starting this week). She'll try it out for a term but I suspect that if the teacher (it's the strict one teaching Rep) wants her to do it en pointe, she may not want to. When they say 'pointe is optional', it raises the problem of who decides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Hi Blubird I see the youtube of Paquita variation from the Pas de trios, we were dancing Paquita in our summer show last year, whilst I recognised the music, the variation was somewhat different. I checked this against the Mariinski version which ours was inspired by, it seams it is neither variations that belong to the Pas de Trios, but the first variation of next section completely. I know our company didn’t dance all of those solos. The fourth solo, the one that follows the cupid solo that is also found in the dream scene of Don Q, I really love the both the music and choreography of that fourth solo, it wasn’t one our company danced and I really wanted to take that one up to Ballet West with me this year, unfortunately my leg injury put things back where that was no longer possible. At least I have a couple of PDD and 3 solo's for them this year. Love your next video of Yuhui Choe’s Blue Bird, I have danced her variation and always held that back as a space filler. As for RADs Discovering Repertoire program, I did email a RAD teacher where I hire there studio for a couple of hours a week and do their Adult Ballet class. Although I had a reply about a welcome back after my injury, there was no remark about the RAD program. I guess similar to you, I have a non RAD teacher as my rep coach which we do one to one twice a week and have for the last 3 to 4 years. The final work is then taken up to Ballet West once a year for its final polishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird22 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 These are the closest versions to the ones the RAD are using, that I can find anyway! I’m toying with the idea of joining the RAD, (luckily I have transferable qualifications) but not owning my own school means I can’t very well go around swapping what syllabi I teach! I’ve been quizzing RAD teachers I know and they either haven’t heard of it or just can’t work out where the Discovering Rep fits in with their students. I’m hoping it takes off as it is really good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Cara in NZ said: DD is enrolled for Adv F, Grade 7, and Rep Level 3 (our school year is only just starting this week). She'll try it out for a term but I suspect that if the teacher (it's the strict one teaching Rep) wants her to do it en pointe, she may not want to. When they say 'pointe is optional', it raises the problem of who decides! pointe is optional it's the student's award and the student's exam fee but not every teacher is going to see that ... one of the reasons DR says pointe is optional is to allow those who can't / won't / don;t the chance at a UK NQF3 or 4 award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bluebird22 said: These are the closest versions to the ones the RAD are using, that I can find anyway! I’m toying with the idea of joining the RAD, (luckily I have transferable qualifications) but not owning my own school means I can’t very well go around swapping what syllabi I teach! I’ve been quizzing RAD teachers I know and they either haven’t heard of it or just can’t work out where the Discovering Rep fits in with their students. I’m hoping it takes off as it is really good! where does it fit ? - as an alternative to the VGEs for those who can't / don't / won't go en pointe - - as enrichment for higher grades /VGE students - something for the adult recreational dancer who does or doesn't want to do pointe but wants a challenge that isn't the VGEs? ( ideal world would have seen a 2 or 3 stage adult beginners / improvers syllabus - as there;s plenty of teachers out there from local schools up to current and ex company ballet masters who have their own beginner syllabuses and interestingly they seem to be quite similar - in that my teacher at 'home' uses similar exercises to those David Kierce uses in his classes and had similar ideas of what the first part of adult improver should include that isn't necessarily in the grades until g4 or 5 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_rebecca Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Bluebird22 said: These are the closest versions to the ones the RAD are using, that I can find anyway! I’m toying with the idea of joining the RAD, (luckily I have transferable qualifications) but not owning my own school means I can’t very well go around swapping what syllabi I teach! I’ve been quizzing RAD teachers I know and they either haven’t heard of it or just can’t work out where the Discovering Rep fits in with their students. I’m hoping it takes off as it is really good! I was at the RAD northern AGM & launch of the rep (& was the only non teacher / examiner there ) A few teachers weren't sure where this fit into things, the general idea seems to be it's great for dancers who are nearing the end of their grade but don't want to do vocationals, it's also been extremely popular with adult students. Pointe being optional was also discussed, as @Nicola H says it's optional, no one in the room believed it was worth doing in en pointe as there's no extra marks & everything to lose from making it harder, the chaines can also be done at half speed & there were a few other bits that were optional to make this a more relaxing / enjoyable grade. We were all a bit confused by the way it's broken into exams though, each level is 3 exams, 1 for the Barre & Center, 1 for the 8 preparations & variation 1 & 1 for the 8 preparations & variation 2, the feeling was most people would take 2 exams back to back, center + variation then the other variation if decided later, the exams are shorter & this is reflected in the exam fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 i suspect those doing it en pointe will be those who really really really want to and VGE students wanting extra NQF3 and 4 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 ....or because they have the ability and technique, and want the challenge. When you are working towards Advanced 2, for example, dancing variations en pointe which are different to the exam variation makes a welcome change and is great practice. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Anna C said: ....or because they have the ability and technique, and want the challenge. When you are working towards Advanced 2, for example, dancing variations en pointe which are different to the exam variation makes a welcome change and is great practice. i.e. 'VGE students seeking enrichment ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 49 minutes ago, Nicola H said: i.e. 'VGE students seeking enrichment ' Indeed. I was responding to your post about VGE students wanting extra NQF points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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