jmhopton Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Thanks again for the wonderful pictures Don Q fan. They do capture a very special performance really well. I wasn't there that day but I was there when Matthew Ball stepped in for David Hallberg and I thought he was as wonderful then as when he did the full length performance with Yasmine. Incidentally, I thought the RB had a principal on site to take over if anything went wrong. I know it's not possible to cover all roles but I remember what a wait there was when Osipova fell in Don Q and Takada had to come from home and take over having danced the role at the matinee. Surely they must have principals on site if a performance is being filmed or would they just use the footage from the film of the earlier performance as 2 shows are normally filmed? Anyway, though being disappointed about Hallberg I was really pleased to see Matthew again and fingers crossed for seeing Hallberg in Manon. Also looking forward to seeing Osipova/Ball in Swan Lake. What an embarrassment of riches we have to look forward to at the RB these days! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Didn't we decide that they usually sent the "spare" principal home at the beginning of the performance if things were okay, and assuming there was no compelling reason to keep them there? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, alison said: Didn't we decide that they usually sent the "spare" principal home at the beginning of the performance if things were okay, and assuming there was no compelling reason to keep them there? I can't comment on the RB but some years ago Tiit Helimets was in a restaurant in Edinburgh when he got the call to take over a performance of Coppelia at the gpdd. I also saw Chi take over a performance of Fille in Plymouth after the Fanny Elsler pdd. Although I think he must have been in the theatre as the curtain wasn't down for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 As it's all over, here's something to make us laugh instead of cry!! 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Now waiting for a photo of Myrtha with her selfie stick 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane S Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 In Leigh Witchel's review of the Osipova/Ball Giselle he writes: " Osipova’s Act 2 entry was an Osipovism where she altered the choreography to create a unique, larger-than-life effect: wild spinning followed by huge jumps picking her legs up under her. " This sounds very much like what I think I saw Naghdi do at that point - is it now standard? (Or did I imagine it?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummykool Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I read that review and wondered where it was coming from. Having looked at a whole load of Giselle clips on YouTube I don't think the choreography, with the exception of those beautiful turning lifts (which I've seen before and is on an Osipova/ Shkylarov clip) is very much different in the various interpretations. I know there used to be some differences in the American version when we saw it there in the 1980's, so that might explain her opinion. I did wonder if she was at the same performance as the rest of us.... I, for one, am still not over it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargaretN7 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, capybara said: Now waiting for a photo of Myrtha with her selfie stick Not to mention the corps de ballet taking selfies as they cross the stage in arabesques. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Mummykool said: I did wonder if she was at the same performance as the rest of us.... I, for one, am still not over it! I agree so much with you, Mummykool. While describing various jumps, arms, legs, etc. this critic missed the most important — the atmosphere created by the dancers and the emotional peak of that performance, which gripped the audience. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 She is a he, Mummykool! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Amelia said: I agree so much with you, Mummykool. While describing various jumps, arms, legs, etc. this critic missed the most important — the atmosphere created by the dancers and the emotional peak of that performance, which gripped the audience. I didn't read the review as being overtly critical of Osipova - just describing her unique/idiosyncratic way of dancing the role. In fact I really enjoyed the writing and found it very illuminating. Maybe I read it too quickly! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I think there was a certain amount of pique in parts of the revue, I got the impression he had come to see Hallberg and felt short-changed. This is the second time I've read Matthew Ball being described as 'pretty'. I'm uncomfortable with that term as I find it demeaning, not as overt as the suggestion he gets roles because he is handsome but the implication is there. With regard to changes in choreography, a jump or a spin can be integral, but steps can look very different on different dancers with different speed and elevation. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonty Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I know Sylvie Guillem had a reputation for changing bits of choreography to suit herself, but I've not heard it said of Osipova before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, MAB said: I think there was a certain amount of pique in parts of the revue, I got the impression he had come to see Hallberg and felt short-changed. This is the second time I've read Matthew Ball being described as 'pretty'. I'm uncomfortable with that term as I find it demeaning, not as overt as the suggestion he gets roles because he is handsome but the implication is there. With regard to changes in choreography, a jump or a spin can be integral, but steps can look very different on different dancers with different speed and elevation. Oh, MAB - 'revue' rather than 'review' .... You did make me laugh. Thank you. For a moment you had me imagining Leigh Witchel disguising himself as a 'pretty' Hermione Gingold and prancing about with glee purposefully on the theme of 'Matthew Ball'. (I was assuming this was in one of the new very Flash ROH loos prior to returning to his complimentary seat [only one mind] where all decorum would, of course, be observed.) Sadly I can't remember the music. No, no. I think it was Ruth Etting's entrancing 1929 'Button Up Your Overcoat'. The vision was - as you suggest - piquant. Edited March 15, 2018 by Bruce Wall 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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