alison 9,473 Posted November 15, 2016 Thought we might as well use the Poll feature for a change! I'm thinking probably the Rojo/Streeter/Corrales/Quagebeur cast, but open to alternatives. All views welcome, no included, so as to get an accurate idea of potential interest. You can add any comments below. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan McNulty 15,741 Posted November 15, 2016 I would love this on DVD, especially with James Streeter as Albrecht and Stina Quagebeur as Myrthe. So I agree with Alison about the casting. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alison 9,473 Posted November 16, 2016 The background to this, basically, is that I heard half-a-dozen people at Sadler's Wells tonight asking whether there was a DVD, or similar, so thought I'd test the water 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sim 12,811 Posted November 16, 2016 Nothing can ever replace a live performance, and I think this piece would have to be very well filmed to work. So I am a bit ambivalent about this one! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinMM 5,944 Posted November 16, 2016 Well to be honest you could say this about any live performance .....no DVD is as good as the real thing for me whatever the ballet. But yes this would need careful filming and it is quite dark. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sim 12,811 Posted November 16, 2016 I agree Lin... I said 'a' live performance because I think it pertains to all of them! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinMM 5,944 Posted November 16, 2016 Sorry Sim didn't read your post properly!! Time to go to bed I think! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pas de Quatre 2,502 Posted November 16, 2016 As I mentioned on the main thread, I was not convinced by this version. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacqueline 1,590 Posted November 16, 2016 I would buy a dvd of this work although I know there's nowt like actually being there. I haven't seen this Giselle live and I know some things work better than others on the small screen, but I enjoyed viewing Elizabeth on dvd recently and there is something appealing about being in the comfort of my own home, not having to deal with audience behaviour or the slog of travelling on public transport. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capybara 7,634 Posted November 16, 2016 I would need Alina Cojocaru as Giselle and Cesar Corrales as Hilarion which is a combination not being fielded at SW, although it was (to powerful effect) on tour. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinMM 5,944 Posted November 16, 2016 And Stina Quagebeure as Myrthe .....yes probably the cast I would want to see on DVD ....though I still enjoyed the cast I saw in Southampton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petunia 606 Posted November 16, 2016 I'd definitely buy the DVD - just a few minutes ago I thought about writing to Sadler's Wells and pleading for one! As I have several DVDs of works by Khan and/or Cherkaoui which are co-produced by them I thought there might be a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zxDaveM 5,170 Posted November 16, 2016 might be a bit gloomy to film... would like a DVD if it comes over on film Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annamicro 280 Posted November 16, 2016 I would need Alina Cojocaru as Giselle and Cesar Corrales as Hilarion which is a combination not being fielded at SW, although it was (to powerful effect) on tour. and James Streeter as Albrecht, another combination not available in London: he is the one making the greater difference, IMO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLOSS 4,527 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't want to buy a DVD. I am afraid that I didn't find this piece sufficiently compelling choreographically or musically to bear repeated viewing, I will admit that bits of it were clever but large tracts of it were not. Mr Khan succeeded in established that he knew the choreography of the original Giselle, but for me at least.clever is not the same as compelling. Giselle refracted both musically and choreographically with a few ideas culled from elsewhere such as dancing with a corpse from the end of MacMillan's Romeo and Juliet and ideas which looked as if they were heavily influenced by Ashton's Five Brahm's Waltzes just did not add up to a work which I would want to view or listen to repeatedly. Don't misunderstand me I have nothing against allusions,borrowing or recycling but the choreographer has to do something with the material. He has to make the ballet work and for me it he did not succeed in doing so. As far as the score is concerned I don't think that it adds up to much,a couple of sections from the original score transformed by distortion and re-orchestration giving it a vaguely Indian flavour and long sections with a lot of repetition and the sort of orchestration which suggests that something momentous is happening on stage.Unfortunately in this case there isn't. The result is a work which is underwhelming. A strong dance work is one which is not wholly dependent on a particular combination of performers for its effect. Other casts might have convinced me of the value of this work, the one I saw didn't. Anyway, fortunately for those who want a DVD, whether or not one is issued does not depend on me. Edited November 16, 2016 by FLOSS 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don Q Fan 2,254 Posted November 16, 2016 I tweeted ENB and Tamara Rojo replied to say they were trying to get it recorded but it's very expensive. So they must have it in mind. Fingers xd. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erica 37 Posted November 19, 2016 I think they just don't have the money to do so. They don’t have a theatre and I don’t think any of the theatres they use have recording facilities and/or online transmissions to cinemas around the world. Being so tight on money must be a real problem and a continuous headache for ENB 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zxDaveM 5,170 Posted November 19, 2016 perhaps they could crowd-fund it, and those that donate to a certain level get a free DVD (or blu-ray); higher sponsors get signed copies, that sort of thing... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annamicro 280 Posted November 19, 2016 Yesterday Tamara said again that they cannot afford it, because it's too costly: they have to pay rights to everybody involved and also the theatre, having not their own. What a pity: the release of Leeds Corsaire looks even more a miracle... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bridiem 4,410 Posted November 19, 2016 The working stage rehearsal was filmed (and apart from the recorded music was effectively a performance), but perhaps that can't/won't be used commercially? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erica 37 Posted November 19, 2016 The working stage rehearsal was filmed (and apart from the recorded music was effectively a performance), but perhaps that can't/won't be used commercially? I believe general rehearsals are only recorded for archives, using one fix camera and not close up so it would not be suitable for distribution 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don Q Fan 2,254 Posted November 19, 2016 Pity the BBC doesn't help out they could show it on tv too. Ive said if I win the lottery I will help ENB out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 1,285 Posted November 19, 2016 The working stage rehearsal was filmed (and apart from the recorded music was effectively a performance), but perhaps that can't/won't be used commercially? Bridie, that night the BBC was filming a documentary there - they would have been able to get the clips they needed of the performance from that, but it's likely not how one would approach filming a DVD version 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alison 9,473 Posted November 20, 2016 Well, this is fun - I think the forum software must regard every new vote as a new "post" to this thread, because it keeps marking it as unread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPD444 800 Posted November 20, 2016 Out of interest how do you register your vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bridiem 4,410 Posted November 20, 2016 Out of interest how do you register your vote? There should be check boxes at the top of the thread and you can select one. (I've already voted so I just see the option to delete my vote.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirLensCap 2 Posted April 3, 2018 Yes, yes and thrice yes! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sim 12,811 Posted April 3, 2018 Welcome to the forum SirLensCap! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alison 9,473 Posted January 29 Ask and ye shall receive, and all that Not that I'm suggesting this poll had any influence on the decision, but https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07N3XD6GL/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1548791057&sr=8-5&keywords=english+national+ballet+dvd Many thanks to Bluebird for spotting this! 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
