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I don't know either school in detail so can't answer the question directly. I would look at which school you think will be best for your child. Including academics, variety of dancing etc. It wouldn't surprise me if more ballerinas are produced at Elmhurst but that may reflect who goes in as it is generally higher in the pecking order (although not sure if it remains as high in the order for US?) ie not necessarily reflective of the teaching quality. In general very few get classical contracts even at Elmhurst. And remember there are non classical students at Tring as well. I have heard grumbles about academic standards in the LS at Elmhurst.

 

That sounds negative towards Elmhurst - I don't mean to be but worth looking beyond the pecking order of each school.

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Although I have no personal knowledge of Tring I know some fabulous dancers who have trained there.

 

I think for lower school it's important to consider Everything. There is a lot of movement before going into upper school with dancers from Hammond & Tring LS going onto places like Royal, Elmhurst, ENB etc & also movement the other way.

 

The classical training I am told is first rate.

 

It sort of stands to reason that dancers from upper schools that concentrate pretty much solely on ballet (& have company connections) get a higher purely classical employment rate. Personally my dd would not be happy ina school where she could not do tap & jazz, other children may feel the other way round.

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I would advise you to look at where graduating students have gained employment in both schools. All of the vocational schools offer excellent academic studies.

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As a parent with a child who has done 2 years at Tring lower school, I can honestly say the classical training is first rate. There won't be as many 'classical' dancers at Tring as Elmhurst and they also have a musical theatre stream (completely separate from dance) and not all on dance course wish to be ballet dancers. But the best classical dancers Tring produce rival those of RBS and Elmhurst. Evidenced by the fact each year a few Lower school students always get into Royal ballet upper school.

 

You have to try to decide which school suits your daughter in terms of personality. If she has the ability, grows correctly and applies herself she can reach the highest possible standard in ballet at Tring. She will also be a very versatile dancer, as her contemporary and jazz will be excellent too. Many dancers in our top classical companies have been taught by Tring (some exclusively, some for part of their training).

 

Your dd is a very fortunate girl to have the choice, please don't worry about the standard of dance as much as where will she thrive.

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Well done to your dd! Has your dd been offered ️these places as a result of summer school, is that why you are now trying to decide? Does distance make any difference to you, the opportunity of an MDS at one of the schools, things to perhaps consider?

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Just to add - the only graduate from RB upper school this year who was given a permanent contract with RB, was trained through Tring lower school.

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Thank you everyone for your priceless advice I have taken it all into to consideration and I believe tring is the better place for her though she tells me Elmhurst but still not sure luckily she is incredible fortunate to have received an MDS for both and distance does not matter for us. This makes the decision better on a way but much harder as we have to make it ourselves entirely. One more question "do many of the Elmhurst students from year11 get taken on at some of the high level upset schools I.e RBS?

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One thing that nobody has mentioned is the relative size of the schools.  Tring has the Dance (ballet) department alongside MT, Drama and also Music departments.  So it is a very large establishment.  Elmhurst, focussing on ballet is tiny in comparison.  Which sort of establishment would suit you better?

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Oh, I hadn't thought of Tring being large. Due to my non Dancing child's senior school with 1,200 children. But it is a good point, there are approximately 250 kids at Tring all told and the split is different each year between dancers and musical theatre. You could always ring the schools to see how many are in year 7 dance course. Class sizes are small, but more people to know outside of dance lessons.

 

On a very positive note, as the OP is sitting on 2 MDS offers, one additional offer will be given to someone waiting in the wings very soon!

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Thank you everyone for your priceless advice I have taken it all into to consideration and I believe tring is the better place for her though she tells me Elmhurst but still not sure luckily she is incredible fortunate to have received an MDS for both and distance does not matter for us. This makes the decision better on a way but much harder as we have to make it ourselves entirely. One more question "do many of the Elmhurst students from year11 get taken on at some of the high level upset schools I.e RBS?

Interesting question as Elmhurst is a high level Upper School ????. However 'yes' they do. Last year and this year places were offered at RBS, ENBS, Central and Rambert and Tring. You will have seen from other information that it has been the same for Tring. Ultimately the dance training is excellent in both schools. The environment differs for reasons mentioned, broader curriculum other genres, larger/smaller numbers, differing boarding environment, distance from home etc. I had two DD's at Elmhurst, one thrived, the other didn't, but a change of vocational school resulted in a much happier child. Both have/are entering top Upper Schools.

Get back to the schools, have discussions, work out where you feel which environment will be best for your child and also listen to what they feel. Most importantly if it isn't working don't be afraid to address... It's your precious DC, clearly very talented to be offered two MDS places.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

NL

Apologies should have mentioned edited as from my phone

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To add to the discussion of differences between the two, Elmhurst is very much an "urban" school, with limited outside space, whereas Tring has enormous grounds.    Just living with ballet dancers adds to the "hothouse" environment, and you are in direct competition with your peers at all times.  However, it does mean everyone has the same passion as you.  Tring, by comparison, offers a wider range of students, and a wider range of opportunities.

 

Have you asked your child why they prefer Elmhurst?  

 

To second Nana Lily, I also had a child who thrived in one of the two environments, hated the other, and my regret is that I didn't make a change sooner.

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Hi, anyone able to update on this thread?

Find myself in balletgirl12 situation this year and have no idea what is the right decision?

Any advice on the Elmhurst/Tring debate gratefully received!

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All of the above applies. You have to try and see where your child will be happiest. There are positives and negatives at all the schools, your child will thrive where they are happy. The training is excellent at both schools but the environments are different.

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Tinkerbell05

 

There is a much wider choice of academic options at Tring and I believe the children are set from Y7. (No child at either just information given at auditions). This may be an important issue for you.

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Thank you that does help SarahW

Good to know nothing has changed.

We are closer to elmhurst which is a big factor.

Thanks for the advice.

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Yes I agree distance is also important. We are 90 mins (not on a Friday pm!!) from my dd vocational school and the travelling for pick ups is an issue - not too bad for us.

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