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Looks like it's just London left then?! Do they come out in the order that the auditions took place ie. oldest first?!

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So it must be 10 years since my DD received her first "no" from JAs, but I can clearly remember how awful it was telling her. Matters soon got even worse when we got a call saying that her best friend, who up until then she had done everything with had a "yes". So poor DD had to go through the misery of putting on a brave face in school assembly and at dance class when the announcement was made, as well as dealing with the internal conflict of being pleased for her friend and terribly upset for herself.A lot for an 8 year old to handle. So I can empathise with those DCs and parents who are feeling sad right now. But honestly, it's not the end of the world. Many roads lead to Rome, and harsh though it is, most of those paths are paved with "Nos" interspersed with the rather less frequent joyous "yesses". It is tough, but the nos have to be got used to and used as learning experiences.

If you have had a no, remember that you are in good company. If I recall rightly, something like 90% of JA applicants are unsuccessful. And remember that the vast majority of those who apply are good dancers - almost all will be  high achievers in their local dance school and the pupils that their teachers think have most potential. Not getting in doesn't mean that your child is a bad dancer or that there is anything "wrong" with them, just that they are not "right" for this particular scheme at this particular time.

My DD has had way more No than Yes letters over the years, and the Nos are never nice but she accepts them as part of the deal. No doubt there will be many more to come. But we treat every audition as an event in it's own right. A class somewhere different. a look at another school or studio, with a different teacher and different dancers to pick stuff up from. And of course, a mother and daughter road trip with associated shopping and eating.

 DD went though a spell a few years ago when she didn't want to do anything outside of her local school and decided that dancing should just be a hobby for her. I think that's fine too - after all, this is all supposed to be enjoyable and if it's not, then it is probably time to re-evaluate. So for quite a few years she didn't audition for anything at all, or do any summer schools etc, just had fun (albeit hard work ) with her local school. Until last year, when she decided that she did want to audition for full time training after all. Of course she got plenty of No letters again, but also a couple of yesses, so come September she'll be away. Her best friend from the beginning of the story is still a beautiful dancer, but her interests have developed in other directions, and she dances as a hobby now. That didn't seem likely this time 10 years ago.

So, pick yourselves up, shake yourselves down and start all over again. Your children are the same lovely and loved little dancers that they were before you opened those letters and the world is full of other equally wonderful opportunities that maybe you just don't know about yet.

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Such a fab post, Pupsmum. X

 

Just to add our experience - DD got a no for JAs for year 5, then SWL for year 6 but place didn't come up. At the same time got a yes for two other associate schemes, Tring CBA and YDA. She auditioned this year for vocational lower schools, got finals at 3 out of 4, and funded place to start in September at one of them. She has definitely learned as much, if not more, from her nos as her yeses.

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 just that they are not "right" for this particular scheme at this particular time.

 

At the same time when you are starting out, particularly without the support of the teacher, you have no idea whether DS/DD was even close. That for me is the difficult bit. Somehow a yes gives more confidence than a no. For us it was just the chance to be in a good class with highly motivated pupils, rather than long term ambitions.

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For the last two years we have received our London JA audition results on a Thursday (12th June in 2014 and 11th June last year).

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Ah well I guess I'll stop checking the email .. I suspect it will be a no given my DD informed me a few weeks later she needed a toilet break ! We applied on DDs teachers recommendation , but she is very blasé about it all , being a young 7. Very unlike my older DD. Nevertheless we had a fab day in Covent Garden

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I guess it takes a while to organise 415 ish emails! Fingers crossed for tomorrow :)

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So looks like tomorrow could be the day! Good luck everyone when the emails start to ping through. Thanks for your post, Pups_mum - very timely for all this!  ;)

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I have a question regarding age limit for RBS JAs. Ive been assuming all along that we can re-apply next year, but its not clear to me when the age 10 limit refers to. On the web page it says the age in August, but which August? The one before the auditions or the one after? As my daughter is going to be 10 this year, would she actually have another chance at JA? 

 

Many thanks to anyone who can advise.

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Hi isadora, JA's cover school years 4, 5 & 6. So if your daughter is going in to year 5 in September she could audition next year for year 6. I hope this makes sense.

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...And if she is going into Year 6 in September she could audition for MAs (Mid associates) or even White Lodge...

Good luck!

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I have a question regarding age limit for RBS JAs. Ive been assuming all along that we can re-apply next year, but its not clear to me when the age 10 limit refers to. On the web page it says the age in August, but which August? The one before the auditions or the one after? As my daughter is going to be 10 this year, would she actually have another chance at JA? 

 

Many thanks to anyone who can advise.

It means age 10 when you apply, so anyone who is 10 at 31 August (after the auditions) counts as a JA. The next year would be MAs. 

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thats such a relief, thank you! i was so upset last night thinking its all over as they don't do mid associates at totnes which is the only one we could reach. white lodge? in our dreams!!

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31 August (after the auditions) 

 

so this would mean august 2017. she will be still ten. so that would be ok? sorry to be so slow about this.

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so this would mean august 2017. she will be still ten. so that would be ok? sorry to be so slow about this.

Yes. If she'll be 10 on August 31st 2017 she'll still be a JA for that year starting in September 2017. I know because my friend's dd is born on 1st Sept and we had to find out the details to see which year she'd fit! Think of it as school years - JAs go up to year 6. Then year 7 are MAs.

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If your DD is currently in Year 4 at school, then she is applying for a Year 5 JA place from September, when she will join Year 5 at school. In this case she could apply next year for a Year 6 place.

 

If she is currently in Year 5 at school, then she is applying for a Year 6 JA place this year and could apply for a MA place next year.

 

Hope that helps!

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During year 5 she would audition for a year 6 place, once she's in year 6 she's too old to audition for JAs. Hope this helps - I know I find it easier to think in term of school year rather than age! Sadly no more JA audition opportunities for us but she's an Elmhurst associate which she loves, so no huge disappointment. I do however feel the pain of all those no's.

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There is quite a helpful table on the RBS website which shows you by precise age what can be applied for (although the above posts have summed it up perfectly).

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