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  1. CeliB

    I am shamed by my poor dévéloppé

    agree with Lily_883 - I watched my son do developpe a la seconde in centre of room both unsupported and supported (holding the foot up). He completely raised his knee to his max height with his foot still pointing down and THEN extended his calf and foot up. Apparently the size of the difference between the height achieved when supported and unsupported indicates whether there is a discrepancy in strength Vs flexibility. So if you can raise your leg high whilst holding it but not on its own this would indicate your limiting factor is lack of strength, and if both measurements are low this would mean your limiting factor is lack of flexibility. Obviously supported is bound to be a bit better but just as an indicator DS's angle between standing leg and raised leg was 28 degrees more when supported and this was evaluated as 'no problems identified'... Does that help at all?
  2. Well, and my apologies if I inadvertently fuelled the fire by commenting further... I'm really astonished that anyone would get so aggressive over something so trivial - but as you commented Harwel this says more about the state of mind of this person than anything to do with the conversation we were having - and s(he) is clearly to be pitied. That said, I would feel quite uncomfortable if this vitriol had been directed at me, no matter how absurd and deranged it was, so sending my sympathy...
  3. errm without wanting to fuel the fire actually I think this is probably exactly right (as far as the Russian companies go). My DSs experience of the Bolshoi and Vaganova Academy is that they are extremely old fashioned - he does have access to a medical centre and can get an instant MRI etc but he hasn't really managed to access any kind of rehab advice or treatment (in over a year of being in the company and he's never once managed to see the masseur or physio as they are never available outside his rehearsal schedule, and whilst at the Vaganova pretty much his only advice when injured was to rest until it got better). As a result of reading this article: https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/jul/15/raising-the-barre-how-science-is-saving-ballet-dancers plus some advice from DrDance I arranged for him to be assessed by the dance scientists at Laban and it was a complete eye opener- I don't think there's anything as ground breaking as this going on in the Russian companies. Interestingly one of the key pieces of advice from the physio exactly mirrored a piece of Tsiskaridze's teaching, which shows that those with a brilliant understanding may be able to pass on that knowledge, but Tsiskaridze is really exceptional in DS's experience. The point is that clearly someone who is made it to the top using this kind of regime clearly has the physique that can cope with that. But if scientific research can show a better method, with proven outcomes (look at the injury reduction they quote- it's very impressive) doesn't it behold us all to embrace it? Sorry for a long post, but there is no excuse for avoiding evidence. Otherwise we would still be living in the dark ages. Ballet is no exception.
  4. CeliB

    How to keep up interest in dance when it starts to falter?

    This is brilliant advice - when DS almost gave up ballet after a horrible experience I was lucky enough to find a great therapist who just had a couple of sessions with him to help him think through his decision and this was one of the key things he did. It was instrumental in DS taking up his place at the Vaganova, and the rest (as they say.....) etc
  5. CeliB

    American teen relocating to London

    To be fair its worth mentioning only because there has been a lot of press about London terrorist attacks because the USA's (insert preferred adjective) POTUS likes to make scathing attacks on Sadiq Khan and the state of London as a hotbed of terrorism and danger. So someone relocating from USA could have a very skewed idea about what happens in London or how little attention most Londoners pay to this comparatively minor threat. So worth discussing simply to reassure... Agree that most of what you need to know is just common sense advice on managing London transport and the general advice on safety for young women travelling around a big city alone (which is no different here than anywhere else). And another vote for the London Russian Ballet School from DS.
  6. CeliB

    How to keep up interest in dance when it starts to falter?

    Totally agree with Pups_mum... our rule has always been that if the fees have been paid with the agreement of the child, then they see the term out (with the aforementioned caveats re bullying etc). All my 4 have had to endure one or other class of something they stopped really enjoying because they had asked for the classes and I had paid. I think it did teach them to think a bit harder before asking to join a class on a whim.. As for the overall question about keeping her interest I guess its worth a conversation to try and unpick what exactly she doesn't like about it. But ultimately you may have to accept that it just isn't what she wants, no matter how talented she may be. My younger son has been evaluated as being possibly more physically talented than eldest who is dancing at the Bolshoi (by the teacher who initially inspired DS1 to become the dancer he is now - the wonderful Judy Breen, whose judgement I trust absolutely) but after 2 years of ballet he gave up because he just didn't want to do it. My youngest daughter has (according to DS1) a ballet physique and feet to die for but after a term of ballet aged 7 pronounced that ballet is too 'sweaty' and has never again put a ballet shoe on. Thems the breaks I guess...
  7. CeliB

    News of non-dancing children.....

    It seems like small fry compared to the successes of many, but DS2 (who is no longer dancing so perhaps the D is now Darling not Dancing!) has just got his GCSE results, and exceeded our expectations. Not by getting a zillion 9s or A* but by actually overcoming 3 years of immense psychological difficulties and going on to sit through every exam and pass enough to go forward to 6th form college. I think I cried just as much and with the same level of joy as when DS1 got offered his contract at the Bolshoi. Off to celebrate!
  8. CeliB

    Ballet shoes for wide feet

    DS has pretty wide feet and always found the best fit and look for him was grishko widest fitring split sole canvas I *think* style 6 but it might be 5 that are split sorry we haven't bought them in a while as he got a sack of shoes donated to him by tsiskaridze who still gets his hand made by the bolshoi shoe dept and is same size and similar arch to DS (it was like the best ever Christmas present!!)....but talking of arch I think these are particularly good if you have a big arch which DS does have. Also not always easy to source tho I am pretty sure just dance stocks them? Have to say it's a real joy when they join a company and have shoes supplied. ... must be even.more.wonderful for parents of girls- ouch the cost of point shoes!!!
  9. CeliB

    Adult ballet classes in Sheffield

    Thanks so much for the recommendations, I will pass them.on to DD. .much appreciated...
  10. CeliB

    Adult ballet classes in Sheffield

    Thanks Millie3 there is a dance society with one ballet class she will try but I think she'd like to have other options in case it isn't the right level for her... so its nice to get a feel of what's available...
  11. Hi balletcoers My DD is off to.medical school in Sheffield in Sept and is very keen to find an adult ballet class. She has been doing ballet since age 3, more recently Vaganova but don't think she's overly fussed, and is very keen to find a friendly local class that isn't at too advanced (the adult vaganova class she's been doing works more on strength and getting good basics than the more flashy moves so for example she wouldn't be able to do double pirouettes). Any suggestions would be very gratefully received. Many thanks 😊
  12. CeliB

    UK v’s US. Help !

    Hi there yes as noted.my DS trained.in washington from.14-18. He didn't want to stay in the US after graduation although he was offered ABT studio companyvia prix de Lausanne. Many of his peers in the US have gone to Europe (mikhailovsky, Dutch national, Danish royal, dresden to name but a few ). Others did go to US companies but not always the top ones (tho I think one of their alumni has just been named ABT studios new AD). I always had the impression that vaganova training made the students more suitable for Europe but I would emphasise that my knowledge is fairly limited as I'm not a ballet person... if your daughter is particularly taken with vaganova training I have to say I would advise going straight to the source (the academy in St petersburg) but if her desire is to work in the USA she might be better off with a school that has an associated company like San fransisco, SAB etc... Anyway feel free to pm me or message on the board if you think I could answer any other questions. I.might be a bit slow to answer as I'm on a campsite in France (hence writing on my phone so apols for the rubbish grammer and typos) All the best - it's a tough decision (and a expensive one!)
  13. CeliB

    Sussex/Kent dance shops

    Dancia international has a shop in Brighton if that's not too hard for you to get to. Can't really comment on their pointe shoe fitting as I have a dancing boy (and hence didn't really bother with physical shops as their boys range is generally extremely limited) but maybe other forum members have used them?
  14. CeliB

    When to go for associates?

    Just wanted to add that although associates classes can be good fun and especially useful if your child is at a ballet school that doesn't have a history of prepping children for a career in ballet, or are small so not many other children are doing it seriously, they are absolutely NOT necessary (at least not enough to make you end up in a hair tearingly stressful financial or logistic situation to ensure they attend them). I don't want at all to put you off as I doubt they ever do any harm (hair tearing situation excepted) but please don't feel they are a necessary precursor to vocational school. My DS applied for RB JAs and then MAs (I think at around 11 and 12) and didn't get in either time. He didn't start serious (e.g. more than 30 min a week) ballet classes until he was 12, didn't go to vocational school until 14 and is now at 20 quite happily ensconced in the corps of a classical ballet company. I realise boys can leave it a little later but I don't think I am the only one whose DK made it to professional without following the 'conventional' JA/lower school/upper school route... Welcome to the roller coaster!
  15. only in the local pub- he has been performing so relentlessly that he wouldn't have been able to go even if he'd had tickets- but he did get to see most of the Russia quarter as he was only in Act 1 of R&J - and he had his sister and brother with him (as well as lots of the Bolshoi soloists - it was quite an evening). DD says that there was hardly anyone left to take the curtain call after the performance (she and DS2 had free second row seats courtesy of their brother) as they had all rushed off to watch the footie! I think he was slightly relieved that Russia didn't win- would have been pretty tough to be watching a Russia England match - talk about divided loyalties!