prancerdancer Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 They only check the UK fingerprint data base to see if you are a convicted sex offender in the UK or declared especially dangerous by the police. So paedophiles, sex offenders child traffickers and adults that abuse children emotionally or physically whose fingerprints are not on record can still get through the current system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Here is the official info on DBS checks: https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annaliesey Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Probably a bit of a diversion, a friend of mine had a daughter at a dance school where the teacher used to take money for exams which never happened. She used to say that the exam board had no availability , but according to DDs teacher at the time she would send in 4 possible dates and be given one. The thing that most concerned more was the teacher taking money from trusting parents on their children's behalf and then no exams. My friend eventually got wise to it when she rang the board directly when some exams had actually happened, and no results received. The board had received no payment hence withholding the results, Thankfully my friend moved her daughter soon after. Don't know how people can do this, thankfully the school is now closed. That's awful! How trusting we all are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annaliesey Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I find this very interesting regarding exam fees. My daughters vocational school collected money for Advanced 1 Rad classes extra to curriculum, we also had to pay the £130 exam entry payment. We paid this in the November 2015 and were told that the exam was to be in the spring of 2016, date to be confirmed. The school then decided that they had not finished the course in the spring and every one on the course would now have take their exams in the Autumn term. My daughter has left the school now, but they are refusing to give the exam entry payment back. I wonder if that money has been kept separately....in a secure account. I would have thought that legislation such as The Sale Of Good Act would cover this for a refund of goods and services not provided. The only exception to that would be anything specific in the organisations Supply of Goods and Services Terms and Conditions that specifically stated that fees would not be refunded. I can give some debt collection and litigation advice by pm if you wish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Is It fraud when a ballet school also provides the accommodation but on leaving does not return the deposit?? My dd was at a vocational school and lived in one of their houses...she left in mid July. The house was inspected and deemed to be in a good condition. I understand that deposits are supposed, by law, to be put into a separate account and are therefore returnable...within 14 days after vacating the property. The money has not been returned despite polite requests on our behalf....I suppose it isn't fraud as such but feels fairly fraudulent from our point of view.....thoughts? Advice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hello CP, when I worked on a project based in Bath I rented a room in a house (it was a very wonderful house BTW) but had terrible trouble getting my deposit back. I did in the end because I recommended the house to other people in work, a number of whom rented there for a while. I had feedback from one of my colleagues that they all had problems getting their deposits back when they left. It seems to be a common issue. I don't know whether it would class as a fraud, but perhaps you could (if you haven't already) seek advice from the CAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thank you Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 This may help: http://www.nus.org.uk/en/advice/housing-advice/deposits/ Re the 14 days, does it say 14 days in your contract? Or "after x weeks of vacating the property". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) 14 days...thank you for the link Edited August 17, 2016 by cornishprincess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 14 days Then assuming there are no deductions for damages, you should have had it returned to you. I agree re contacting the CAB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Right CAB here I come!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 This is also helpful: http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/tenancy_deposits/getting_your_deposit_back/return_of_a_tenancy_deposit_when_a_tenancy_ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Fab. Thank you AnnaC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Google is a marvel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacy Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thank you Annaleisey for your advice, I will definitely not let it go. I will also keep making requests for the return of our accommodation deposit as well Cornishprincess. I guess now it has gone quiet re request to pay back thousands of pounds scholarship money I can start my next battle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Spacy sent you a pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I have been told that my deposit will be returned by Friday........ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa O`Brien Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I have lived in four different privately rented houses over the years; one in Salford and the other three here. The last three houses I have lived in I never got my deposit back, despite me leaving each house in immaculate condition and far better than I entered them. Doesn't help of course when the landlord doesn't give you a Tenancy Agreement, even when he promises one. My last but one house, the deposit was only £400. Four month's rent. Point blank refused. Some pathetic excuse or other. And the couple had won about 100K on the Lottery a few years earlier. Nasty pieces of work. The house I am currently in and have been for around nine years, the house became reposessed around New Years one year. No word of warning from the landlord, despite his mother living next door to me and him turning up most days to visit her. Had the humiliation of hordes of people traipsing through my home for weeks on end. The new owner does nothing. Except collect the rent on this and the other nine houses he owns in the Newry area. Because the house was repossessed I lost my deposit. When I eventually move out of here, I will get nothing. I really don't like landlords. Bloody leeches. Edited August 19, 2016 by Lisa O`Brien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishprincess Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Deposit returned today!!!!!!!! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa O`Brien Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Deposit returned today!!!!!!!! Yay. Nice one !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 A poster here said that deposits are supposed to,be kept in a special separate account and paid back within a certain period (usually 14 days to a month) if there is no damage etc. This is true with privately rented accommodation indeed and more .....it is now Law to register the deposit with certain Deposit agencies and even if the tenants stay in the property more than a year you have to inform this Deposit Agency on a yearly basis( or when the tenancy changes of course). I'm not sure when it comes to accommodation for schools etc but it is probably pretty similar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Oh and glad you got your deposit back Cornishprincess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prancerdancer Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 Ummmm Cornish princess my deposit has not been returned. A quick question,if a company owes you money and that company goes bankrupt how do you find out they have filed bankruptcy ? Do they put a notice of the door of the premises and an answer machine on, Is that it? Or is there a web site that announces all the bankruptcies in the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) The liquidators write to every creditor. In fact in my experience they write to everyone who has been a potential creditor over a number of years. Edited August 20, 2016 by Picturesinthefirelight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 The liquidators write to every creditor. In fact in my experience they write to everyone who has been a potential creditor over a number of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Companies house website allows you to look up a business and see if has been dissolved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Ugh, thanks for that, j+e - I didn't realise my bookmarks for Companies House were out of date (I use the website to check the bona fides of various companies I come into contact with). I hope nobody needs to use it for a while, because - in the good old tradition of governments and other organisations finding it necessary to tart up websites which work perfectly well, so that they then don't - the current search facility is hopeless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I have lived in four different privately rented houses over the years; one in Salford and the other three here. The last three houses I have lived in I never got my deposit back, despite me leaving each house in immaculate condition and far better than I entered them. Doesn't help of course when the landlord doesn't give you a Tenancy Agreement, even when he promises one. My last but one house, the deposit was only £400. Four month's rent. Point blank refused. Some pathetic excuse or other. And the couple had won about 100K on the Lottery a few years earlier. Nasty pieces of work. The house I am currently in and have been for around nine years, the house became reposessed around New Years one year. No word of warning from the landlord, despite his mother living next door to me and him turning up most days to visit her. Had the humiliation of hordes of people traipsing through my home for weeks on end. The new owner does nothing. Except collect the rent on this and the other nine houses he owns in the Newry area. Because the house was repossessed I lost my deposit. When I eventually move out of here, I will get nothing. I really don't like landlords. Bloody leeches. Ummmm Cornish princess my deposit has not been returned? Lisa, I'm not sure if NI landlords are subject to the same legal obligations as in England: http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/tenancy_deposits/getting_your_deposit_back/return_of_a_tenancy_deposit_when_a_tenancy_ends but I would suggest you - and anyone else who has not had an accommodation deposit back - seek legal advice, whether from a Solicitor or from the CAB. Edited for clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annaliesey Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 The liquidators write to every creditor. In fact in my experience they write to everyone who has been a potential creditor over a number of years. Only if they are a known creditor... some people have been known to be missed off lists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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