Harwel Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 This happened to us Taxi and I think it's very poor form. My DS previous teacher only valued MT training or RBS. And if you defied her on either of these then she was very dismissive. One ex pupil of hers went to a vocational school (not one she approved of) and she apparently told this DC what a massive mistake they were making. This DC ended up in a very famous/renowned company in Germany and the teacher told me that this DC had wasted their talent as should have gone into MT and that they ended up in a 'tin pot' company in Europe - I was speechless at the time as I couldn't believe the vindictive small minded attitude. Not to mention she was completely wrong in her assessment. Very soon after, we found a fabulous teacher and I was very sorry We hadn't found her earlier. The attitude shift was miles apart and ds was able to build some confidence and ended up at Tring within the year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiz Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 How awful! People like that shouldn't teach at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1. move! --- not always an option though if you live in a place with few schools 2. which is CBA? CBA is Tring Park's Classical Ballet Academy. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight69 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1. move! --- not always an option though if you live in a place with few schools 2. which is CBA? Classical Ballet Academy @ Tring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moka Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well done to the yesses and keep going SWL and nos. My dd got SWL first time round, then got in second go although was turned down for CBA, so they really are all different. If she had got in we would have only done 1. I realise there are people who do multiple associates, there is nothing to stop people doing that, but in my personal opinion (which I know is not a popular one) I think it's a shame when it's the same girls taking all the spots. Obviously they are very good and have what they are looking for, but there are so many talented children that get so close and want it just as much. Sorry to be controversial. Good luck to all and remember, doing an associates class is just an added bonus, it does not mean you can't make a career of dancing x 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumofaboy Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We have been lucky enough to get a place for Totnes. My DS says he never wants to be seaweed again though as it was SOOO embarrassing!! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadora Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well done to the yesses and keep going SWL and nos. My dd got SWL first time round, then got in second go although was turned down for CBA, so they really are all different. If she had got in we would have only done 1. I realise there are people who do multiple associates, there is nothing to stop people doing that, but in my personal opinion (which I know is not a popular one) I think it's a shame when it's the same girls taking all the spots. Obviously they are very good and have what they are looking for, but there are so many talented children that get so close and want it just as much. Sorry to be controversial. Good luck to all and remember, doing an associates class is just an added bonus, it does not mean you can't make a career of dancing x I think thats a fair point and one worth considering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allnewtome Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We have been lucky enough to get a place for Totnes. My DS says he never wants to be seaweed again though as it was SOOO embarrassing!! mmmm mine said that too!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinklesmum Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We have been lucky enough to get a place for Totnes. My DS says he never wants to be seaweed again though as it was SOOO embarrassing!! This made me chuckle - DD said something similar! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katia05 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Looks like it's just London left then?! Do they come out in the order that the auditions took place ie. oldest first?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancingmum123 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 What is SWL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancingmum123 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 aaah short waiting list I presume..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pups_mum Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So it must be 10 years since my DD received her first "no" from JAs, but I can clearly remember how awful it was telling her. Matters soon got even worse when we got a call saying that her best friend, who up until then she had done everything with had a "yes". So poor DD had to go through the misery of putting on a brave face in school assembly and at dance class when the announcement was made, as well as dealing with the internal conflict of being pleased for her friend and terribly upset for herself.A lot for an 8 year old to handle. So I can empathise with those DCs and parents who are feeling sad right now. But honestly, it's not the end of the world. Many roads lead to Rome, and harsh though it is, most of those paths are paved with "Nos" interspersed with the rather less frequent joyous "yesses". It is tough, but the nos have to be got used to and used as learning experiences. If you have had a no, remember that you are in good company. If I recall rightly, something like 90% of JA applicants are unsuccessful. And remember that the vast majority of those who apply are good dancers - almost all will be high achievers in their local dance school and the pupils that their teachers think have most potential. Not getting in doesn't mean that your child is a bad dancer or that there is anything "wrong" with them, just that they are not "right" for this particular scheme at this particular time. My DD has had way more No than Yes letters over the years, and the Nos are never nice but she accepts them as part of the deal. No doubt there will be many more to come. But we treat every audition as an event in it's own right. A class somewhere different. a look at another school or studio, with a different teacher and different dancers to pick stuff up from. And of course, a mother and daughter road trip with associated shopping and eating. DD went though a spell a few years ago when she didn't want to do anything outside of her local school and decided that dancing should just be a hobby for her. I think that's fine too - after all, this is all supposed to be enjoyable and if it's not, then it is probably time to re-evaluate. So for quite a few years she didn't audition for anything at all, or do any summer schools etc, just had fun (albeit hard work ) with her local school. Until last year, when she decided that she did want to audition for full time training after all. Of course she got plenty of No letters again, but also a couple of yesses, so come September she'll be away. Her best friend from the beginning of the story is still a beautiful dancer, but her interests have developed in other directions, and she dances as a hobby now. That didn't seem likely this time 10 years ago. So, pick yourselves up, shake yourselves down and start all over again. Your children are the same lovely and loved little dancers that they were before you opened those letters and the world is full of other equally wonderful opportunities that maybe you just don't know about yet. 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos73 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Such a fab post, Pupsmum. X Just to add our experience - DD got a no for JAs for year 5, then SWL for year 6 but place didn't come up. At the same time got a yes for two other associate schemes, Tring CBA and YDA. She auditioned this year for vocational lower schools, got finals at 3 out of 4, and funded place to start in September at one of them. She has definitely learned as much, if not more, from her nos as her yeses. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiaramum Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well said Pups_mum. Very well written! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight69 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Any London yes or no's yet? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieNora Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Still waiting for London???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyjewel Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Possibly not today after all? We are also waiting ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadora Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 just that they are not "right" for this particular scheme at this particular time. At the same time when you are starting out, particularly without the support of the teacher, you have no idea whether DS/DD was even close. That for me is the difficult bit. Somehow a yes gives more confidence than a no. For us it was just the chance to be in a good class with highly motivated pupils, rather than long term ambitions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 For the last two years we have received our London JA audition results on a Thursday (12th June in 2014 and 11th June last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred71 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Yes, our result was on a Thursday last year too so expecting it tomorrow.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos73 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thursday be the magic day the Royal email dragon rouses itself on ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyjewel Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Ah well I guess I'll stop checking the email .. I suspect it will be a no given my DD informed me a few weeks later she needed a toilet break ! We applied on DDs teachers recommendation , but she is very blasé about it all , being a young 7. Very unlike my older DD. Nevertheless we had a fab day in Covent Garden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancey Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I guess it takes a while to organise 415 ish emails! Fingers crossed for tomorrow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverdrivingtodance Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 What sort of time do the emails generally come??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 My DD's result from her London audition two years ago came on the 12th of June at 4.30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katia05 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So looks like tomorrow could be the day! Good luck everyone when the emails start to ping through. Thanks for your post, Pups_mum - very timely for all this! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadora Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I have a question regarding age limit for RBS JAs. Ive been assuming all along that we can re-apply next year, but its not clear to me when the age 10 limit refers to. On the web page it says the age in August, but which August? The one before the auditions or the one after? As my daughter is going to be 10 this year, would she actually have another chance at JA? Many thanks to anyone who can advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumofpinks Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hi isadora, JA's cover school years 4, 5 & 6. So if your daughter is going in to year 5 in September she could audition next year for year 6. I hope this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora11 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 ...And if she is going into Year 6 in September she could audition for MAs (Mid associates) or even White Lodge... Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katia05 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I have a question regarding age limit for RBS JAs. Ive been assuming all along that we can re-apply next year, but its not clear to me when the age 10 limit refers to. On the web page it says the age in August, but which August? The one before the auditions or the one after? As my daughter is going to be 10 this year, would she actually have another chance at JA? Many thanks to anyone who can advise. It means age 10 when you apply, so anyone who is 10 at 31 August (after the auditions) counts as a JA. The next year would be MAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadora Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 thats such a relief, thank you! i was so upset last night thinking its all over as they don't do mid associates at totnes which is the only one we could reach. white lodge? in our dreams!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadora Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 31 August (after the auditions) so this would mean august 2017. she will be still ten. so that would be ok? sorry to be so slow about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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