Any Junior Associate results out yet?
Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:34 AM
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Edited by charlie4dancin, 13 June 2012 - 05:31 AM.
Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:36 AM
The waiting is very frustrating but there is nothing that you can do to speed it up or influence the content so it really is best just to try not to worry. If your dd/ds pick up on how you are feeling they may begin to feel it too, or even feel under pressure to do well if they see that it means a lot to you.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:52 AM
I spent last night reading about the school shoes and swayback etc etc.
I feel relief that there is other mum's out there to talk to..... hubby just does not get it !!!
Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:56 AM
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:51 PM
If it's a disappointing no, then it might help to explain that they see lots of lovely children and they would like to take them all, but there just isn't enough room for everybody this time.
Sadly, however, that is not true, and my personal view is that it is better to be honest, even with very young children. Whilst there are talented children that are overlooked from time to time, these schemes are about taking the MOST talented and that is the nature of the dance world at every level. far better, in my opinion, to prepare them for that straight away rather than building up false hope for the future. Those that want it enough will try again, and some may be successful second or third time around. But some will not.
Apologies for the dose of realism!
Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:50 PM
Can you imagine a professional dancer giving up ballet just because they were not sucessful at auditions. Dancers are taught to work hard and fight for what you want. These people are determined and will always fight to turn a no into a yes.
Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:58 PM
Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:23 PM
I believe that if the childs teachers/parents feel that the child has the right attributes for associates and the child has the desire to audition, then the child should be encouraged, and if not sucessful to have a go the year after if that is what the child wants to do.
Which is exactly why I said that those that want it enough will try again nd may be successful on a subsequent attempt.
my post was about managing expectations And I believe that it is wrong to mislead a child by telling them that the only reason they were not accepted is because there were not enough places. I have always said that the reason a child is not accepted is that they were not what the panel were looking for at that time. That does not always mean that they will not be accepted in the future, but, sadly, there are children that will NOT succeed, however many times they try and I personally think it is kinder to help them to understand all eventualities rather than to possibly mislead them.
Edited to make more sense.
Edited by Jellybeans, 13 June 2012 - 04:33 PM.
Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:50 PM
Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:44 PM
With reference to photos, certainly JA s and all other associate schemes that I know do not select who to audition on the basis of photos and everyone is invited to audition.
Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:51 PM
Equally some that are not the right body shape at a young age, grow into it at puberty and continue to develop their capability.
One thing I have definitely learned over the years is that potential and ability is a moving feast and two auditions a year apart can produce startlingly different results - both ways!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:03 PM
Each child is individual and what one parent might say to their child maybe polar opposites to what another parent may say to their child to prepare them for possible rejection / acceptance. My dd is under no illusion that because she is privileged enough to be attending these classes at the moment that her path will be an easy one in whatever she decides to do or be at a later date when she is older.
Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:15 AM
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:13 AM
Ok, if by 18 your child has never got finals or a place at a ballet school, then it would be time to steer them down a different path - but I suspect they would have reached that conclusion themselves.
But at 8, 9 or 10, far kinder and more motivational to say (as Mr Kelly used to say at auditions) "You all did well, but they only have 12 places, so can't take everyone they want - so keep going, and you can try again next year".
My dd is a late developer and at 13 is only now coming into her own as a dancer. She knows she wasn't ready at 10 but is determined to try for a post 16 place. She works her socks off and has real drive. Would she have had that drive and perseverance if I had told her at 10 "Sorry, you weren't good enough", rather than "It's not a never darling, it's just a not yet".