invisiblecircus Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yes that's right about Chinese names. I think that sometimes, the organisers don't know whether to keep it consistent and list everyone in the same way, either family name first or given name first, or whether to list people as their name would actually be said, depending on culture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Thanks for this However when addressing personally ( eg not written) how would you then address the person! The Chinese people I know always use their first name (Christian name) in everyday conversation! You don't address them by their family name first then!! So perhaps for written purposes and forms etc it's surname first but definitely in the persons presence it would be first name terms!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I would guess if you are only using their personal name it would be hi Yu, how are you? But formally it would be, could I speak to Hang Yu please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 That made me laugh Pictures!! Thanks! I am obviously getting too caught up with it! I just felt frustrated earlier in the week not being able to work out which way round some of the Chinese and Korean names were!! And didn't want to appear disrespectful to these talented young dancers xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletqs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Yes I liked her contemporary too!! Sometimes one is splitting hairs with separating these contestants......like tenth of a second in athletics etc!! I just wondered what you meant by this? I find the name swapping v confusing. My very good friend explained to me all the above but then they still didn't stick to one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Part of the trouble is that on the Prix's own published lists of candidates on the website, some lists start with the surname (family name) and some lists have it in the second column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Hi balletqs what I meant by the splitting hairs expression that many candidates are of a very similar standard and level of performance so it must be a nightmare to have to judge them and decide who is better than another etc. In the case of the Rite of Spring dancers they were all pretty good!! Personally I found it hard to separate those particular candidates and thought the UK girl was very good too. So trying to separate these candidates was difficult for me(though I'm not a qualified judge of course!) a bit like in Athletics when it's a more or less photo finish......they all appear to go over the line together to the human eye .....only technology can separate them by tenths .....and even hundredths of a second!! I in fact only had a clear favourite or stand out candidate in the Rossini Cards piece (weird piece anyway!) and that was Laura Fernandez. I thought all the candidates who chose this piece were very brave.....much better to play safe with the Bow piece! So for me the winner of the contemporary was probably going to come from this group and Laura definitely brought something extraordinary to the role for me ...so was glad she won this particular prize. The Bow piece was lovely but more balletic than the other two pieces and therefore a bit safer! However I found it very difficult to decide who had danced this the best and am glad I wasn't a real judge!! Obviously the choreographer was there and probably had his favourites ......I wonder who he liked the best?? As I said in other posts a couple of dancers who didn't make it to the final 20 danced this very well I thought. But on the Finals day I couldn't have separated several of the dancers in this piece ...so a sort of "photo finish" I hope that explains it for you. I think the audience prize is a good one to win because this indicates who people would like to watch and not just based on technical ability necessarily.....though usually the candidate has to be pretty good there too. I voted for Yu Hang ( western way round for name!!) because I voted for a male dancer last year and in the overall sense I thought the girls were better this year. I do have a problem with the prize for best Swiss dancer but not sure whether for this thread or not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 How did you vote Lin - I noted they said you could vote online, but I tried and couldn't find the correct tag or button! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annaliesey Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Does anyone know if the prelim round is available to watch online? We tried to keep up via live streaming but it was impossible sitting in a car park outside dance school with the worst 3G data signal ever! We've watched the finals but would love to go back and watch more especially Alexandra Oliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 OMG pas de quatre don't ask!! I found the Prix website a right pain in the posterior!! I think I was pretty sure that I was still trying to catch up with Pre selections from the Friday and then found myself in a section which allowed you to vote for the audience prize....not by design but by accident as it were at this point!! So I thought I'd better do it .....even though I hadn't watched the Finals at that point before I never saw this bit on the website ever again!! I have no idea whether it registered properly but think it did!! At this point I hadn't seen Laura Fernandez or Madsion Young's pieces ....problem re finding place etc .....but had seen Yu Hang and Most of the others including Leroys contemporary but not his classical!! Anyway I thought Yu Hang did the Bow piece really well as well (among others) and her classical was outstanding so went for her. Later of course I saw Madison's Sleeping Beauty and loved that and of course Laura's contemporary. But I didn't catch up to finals day until the Sunday! If I was giving one prize for classical it would still be Yu Hang ....one for contemporary still Laura Fernandez .....but would probably give the audience prize to Leroy on second thoughts ...once I had seen his classical!! I think only retired people like me really have the time for all this!! And you have to be a bit of a fanatic as well of course there's a point when even I was getting "Bow'd out" Then it's a bit like sitting on beds ......after a few it becomes harder to tell the difference!! But I do love watching these young people when they are so enthusiastic still!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's called the Preselections and results on the website .....or was. It runs for something like 8 hours....a clue ...but some of that time is nothing happening while they are deciding the results which come right at the end of nothing for ages!! Worth watching but be warned its really hard to refind your place if you come out of the site!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletqs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Yes I agree LinMM. I thought that all must be what you meant. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdance Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 As a side note, I discovered recently that during the session on fitness and conditioning that the dancers took part in at the Prix, included the Ballet-Specific Aerobic Fitness Test that I choreographed, developed and tested during my PhD. Very proud! 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahw Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Congratulations !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 How lovely dr dance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdance Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Ps apologies for my poor grammar - too much marking and not enough sleep! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annaliesey Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Does anyone have an idea of the ticket prices to watch (as I'm daydreaming about next year) ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The final is now up on youtube. Might be a bit easier to navigate! Sorry, I can't seem to post the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaffa Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Does anyone have an idea of the ticket prices to watch (as I'm daydreaming about next year) ? The prices for the 2016 tickets can be found here: http://www.prixdelausanne.org/competition/2016-tickets/ Of course, you have to add transport and accommodation costs etc. Next year's Prix will apparently be from 29th Jan. to 5th Feb. 2017, with the final on Saturday, 4th Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisiblecircus Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The prize winners' destinations have been published as follows: 1. Yu Hang - Royal Ballet School 2. Maddison Young - Houston Ballet 3. Vincenzo Di Primo - Royal Ballet 4. Leroy Mokgatle - Dutch National Ballet Academy 5. Laura Fernandez - Will not use her prize as she has been hired by the Marinsky. The 5th Scholarship has been attributed to Seu Kim from South Korea who will go to the Royal Swedish Ballet. 6. Junnouke Nakamura - Canada's National Ballet School 7. Dingkai Bai - Royal Ballet School 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legseleven Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Is it usual for 3 out of the 7 to have chosen the same company/its school? Good to see that the RB and RBS are clearly highly regarded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa O`Brien Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I believe that in some languages the surname is usually said first. They are in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthebest2all Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Is it usual for 3 out of the 7 to have chosen the same company/its school? Good to see that the RB and RBS are clearly highly regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthebest2all Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 It is known to happen. The winners choose their destinations and it is just up to the director whether he or she extends an offer to more than one but they have to accept an award winner. Therefore Mr o Hare had to accept his apprentice. But it is done in order of award, so as the winner chose RBS she was guaranteed that and then any others choosing there weren't guaranteed. I also know that 4 of the other female candidates are commencing at RBS US in September incl the female UK candidate and the Genee Bronze medal young lady - she recently won bronze at the YAGP too. The Genee silver medal young lady is going to the Dutch National Academy. Admin please edit this info if I have broken any rules. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rg8 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 One thing that has been bothering me is the name of the main winner which I will now say is Yu Hang. The thing is on the Prix website they announced her as the winner like this "Congratulations to hang YU and eg : for comparison ....madison YOUNG or ...."congratulations to Laura FERNANDEZ thus giving the impression that the surname is YU However after a bit of investigation it seems that YU is a girls Christian name and means "jade" or "shining brightly"(definitely appropriate in her case!!) So it should have read congratulations to Yu HANG This name has been various ways round on different days on the website and Although I know some names not from a western cultural background are difficult sometimes I just think that for such a prestigious competition somebody should take the trouble to get the names correct for the Asian participants!! Even Leroys surname was spelled incorrectly on one day! Rant over but it did annoy me. A little late but here's a bit of clarification re the Asian names. Her surname is actually Yu (nothing to do with the character for jade) and her first name is Hang, which means flight in Chinese. In Asia, the surname usually comes before the first name so she's known as YU Hang back in China. Dingkai Bai's surname is Bai (it means white) and Junnouke Nakamura's surname is Nakamura (it means "middle village"). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Thank you for that clarification rg8!! I suppose it is difficult for organisers to know what to do ....put the surname first as would be in country of origin ...or turn it round to comply with western rules etc. The main thing should be consistency I think choose one way or the other but not mix up which does cause confusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hello RG8 and welcome to the Forum! Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletbean Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Exciting news posted on Instagram today. 5 pupils from BW will be competing at the Genee in Australia this December (4 girls and 1 boy). Amazing achievement, will be watching with great interest. One of the girls I had watched at the SS weekend presentation, not realising that she had applied for the Genee, Congratulations to them all for getting this far. Fingers crossed that all their hard-work will be rewarded 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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